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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:23 pm    Post subject: Brake lines Reply with quote

I was just replacing my caliper afierce fitting new discs... and errrm I it fell off... Sad the metal line snapped.. it was heavily corroded so I would have needed to replace soon anyway.. but I wasn't planning on doing it now.. Sad

So.. has anyone bought any brake lines recently? Where's the best place to buy them?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dead easy to make your own and will cost you pennies. Have a look in my boxster thread in my sig, i'm sure I make some in that.

Anyway, any motor factors will sell you 10m of copper brake line, a bunch of ferrules and a tool to flare the edges. I quite like making brake lines actually.. I just stand there daydreaming whilst doing it...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragpicker wrote:
Dead easy to make your own and will cost you pennies. Have a look in my boxster thread in my sig, i'm sure I make some in that.

Anyway, any motor factors will sell you 10m of copper brake line, a bunch of ferrules and a tool to flare the edges. I quite like making brake lines actually.. I just stand there daydreaming whilst doing it...

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Thanks Ragpicker
I do seem to remember seeing you making some on your Boxster thread.. I shall indeed look into it.. I think I may need to concentrate whilst doing it Laughing Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on Rag's solution.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it the hard lines on the body or the short line from the flexi to caliper? If it's the short one, you can by these pre made from OPC or Design911. Only cost 20 quid tops
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cunifer......... Corrosion proof, not as soft (hence harder to form curves etc) as copper. Though better than copper as that does corrode too. Looks better quality than copper as well I think.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you want me to make you one and send it to you?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did mine last week... cost me about £15 the pair. Make sure you buy a flare spanner for removing old lines /fixing new. Will save you rounding nuts!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamesx19 wrote:
Cunifer......... Corrosion proof, not as soft (hence harder to form curves etc) as copper. Though better than copper as that does corrode too. Looks better quality than copper as well I think.


Cunifer, I've not heard of that before... Question sounds a bit offensive Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you want me to make you one and send it to you?


Ragpicker that is very very generous of you.. thumbsup alas I've just ordered a pair of them online about 20mins ago..
Because it's my daily I chickened out on the diy front... but I do plan to use the approach on various other pipes when I'm not so limited on time Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamesyg wrote:
Did mine last week... cost me about £15 the pair. Make sure you buy a flare spanner for removing old lines /fixing new. Will save you rounding nuts!


Yes I was surprised how cheap they were... unlike a lot of the other pipes.. flare spanner I've been reading about them and was pleasantly surprised halfords sell them for about a fiver Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul987 wrote:
Jamesyg wrote:
Did mine last week... cost me about £15 the pair. Make sure you buy a flare spanner for removing old lines /fixing new. Will save you rounding nuts!


Yes I was surprised how cheap they were... unlike a lot of the other pipes.. flare spanner I've been reading about them and was pleasantly surprised halfords sell them for about a fiver Thumb


Nice one mate, hopefully all went well! I also purchased a sealey brake / clutch bleeder. Amazing piece of kit!!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamesyg wrote:
paul987 wrote:
Jamesyg wrote:
Did mine last week... cost me about £15 the pair. Make sure you buy a flare spanner for removing old lines /fixing new. Will save you rounding nuts!


Yes I was surprised how cheap they were... unlike a lot of the other pipes.. flare spanner I've been reading about them and was pleasantly surprised halfords sell them for about a fiver Thumb


Nice one mate, hopefully all went well! I also purchased a sealey brake / clutch bleeder. Amazing piece of kit!!


Sadly my parts haven't arrived yet.. Bank holiday post I guess. So I'm sat twiddling my thumbs..
I have seen the sealey brake bleeder I think I'm going to get one.. they do look very good Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamesx19 wrote:
Cunifer......... Corrosion proof, not as soft (hence harder to form curves etc) as copper. Though better than copper as that does corrode too. Looks better quality than copper as well I think.


I've been looking into this Cunifer stuff.. it looks really good and not that expensive neither Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on Kunifer, it's been around for years (I used it on a Viva in the 1970s) and has great reputation.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you'd be hard pressed to find any actual copper brake line anymore.

They have been cunifer for decades. Just most people still call them "copper".
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure that's actually correct, my Elan +2 has copper pipes fitted by a PO, they're very different in colour from Kunifer.

Kunifer is a silver/green colour whereas Copper is, well copper coloured like a 2p coin!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe true of your car, but its not good practice to use plain copper and hasn't been for a long time.

Copper work-hardens from vibrations and pressure cycling.

Exacerbated if not clipped up properly or ill fitting. I.e. you likely need more clips for a copper line than typically used on a steel factory line.

Apparently copper brake lines aren't legal in the USA, Canada or Australia.

Copper-nickel or cunifer brand is what you want.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maldren wrote:
Not sure that's actually correct, my Elan +2 has copper pipes fitted by a PO, they're very different in colour from Kunifer.

Kunifer is a silver/green colour whereas Copper is, well copper coloured like a 2p coin!


Pretty sure Kunifer isn't silver/green, it's mainly copper with nickel/iron added AFAIK. Thought it was like copper just a little lighter e.g. bronzey/gold rather than pure copper coloured.

I thought the silver/green was usually steel pipe with a coating on it?
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