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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:57 pm    Post subject: Ugliest Modified Porsches ever and yours for £125k Reply with quote

Explain this to me please

http://www.rmsothebys.com/lf17/london/lots/1986-gemballa-cyrrus/1705416

http://www.rmsothebys.com/lf17/london/lots/1986-gemballa-avalanche/1705415

I'd rather have the 10k mile C2s.....

They are really reaching in this years auction aren't they? A Cat C/D 993 GT2 with a low estimate of £675k ?!?! and a 964 RS with a replacement engine from they don't even know when it was done - up for £170-190k....
Why all the junk? Good ones not for sale or sellers unrealistic on pricing?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that we ought to see if either make their reserve before trying to comprehend the valuations Question
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Ugliest Porsches ever and yours for £125k Reply with quote

ms2015 wrote:
Explain this to me please

http://www.rmsothebys.com/lf17/london/lots/1986-gemballa-cyrrus/1705416

http://www.rmsothebys.com/lf17/london/lots/1986-gemballa-avalanche/1705415

I'd rather have the 10k mile C2s.....

They are really reaching in this years auction aren't they? A Cat C/D 993 GT2 with a low estimate of £675k ?!?! and a 964 RS with a replacement engine from they don't even know when it was done - up for £170-190k....
Why all the junk? Good ones not for sale or sellers unrealistic on pricing?

One more question, can one of you mechanically minded experts explain to very simple me how a 964 turbo with 1700 miles needs a complete engine rebuild? I get that it was stored, I get that it has perished rubbers and stale fluids etc, but a full rebuild?


I agree for me they are incredibly ugly but each to their own.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

me too... Yuk
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

....there are some belters(increasingly many are 996's) being punted about that really give the Porsche marque a bad name. nooo
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wizard993 wrote:
....there are some belters(increasingly many are 996's) being punted about that really give the Porsche marque a bad name. nooo


agreed , and these are only 2 of them !

These are 2 ugly sisters ...........................!!

You wouldnt get me in either of these ! ( the cars ...!)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually really like the total outrageousness of these cars... Surprised

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Avalanche Yuk

But I don't mind the Cyrrus... what
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure? Look at the rear wing....please....
You could take a zero off the price I still wouldn't be seen dead in it
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms2015 wrote:
You could take a zero off the price I still wouldn't be seen dead in it


Agree
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrgghhh my eyes.

They are properly mingin. Surely LHD cars from the Middle East!

Used to see a lot of Gemballa Cayennes in Dubai, which in comparison I now know weren't that ugly after all.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are not the kind of cars that suit ' The likes of Us' in UK.....

maybe some Middle east or Far east buyers as they are generally a bit more drawn to The Bling that these 2 display ...

but ..... for me .... Im oot !!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avalanche...more like Ava-A-Laugh.....I bet these cost a pretty packet back in the day.

I suspect at the end of the auction we will see: Failed to reach reserve or as had been mentioned before someone with deep pockets that likes Gamballsup..
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I like them! Or at least I did when I first saw pictures of them in the 90's. I'm sure they are going to sell and then go immediately into some private collection. I guess in recent times, they are seen as ugly ducklings compared to modern day design.

Just imo of course.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fulla wrote:
Avalanche...more like Ava-A-Laugh.....


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to admit I rather like them. Well 2/3rds of the car, that is. From the side mirrors backward, but what happened to the person at the drawing board with the front end. Did he / she fall asleep or die whilst still holding the pencil?

The cars are true examples of super car design from that era. The shock and wow factor that made them flaunt their design that only super cars could do back then and get away with it. The worst could be said of the Escort Cosworth with its ridiculous whale tail in the 90's.

Do I like them... yes in a way... would I prefer a 991.2TS to buy.. everyday of the week

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MNC911 wrote:
The worst could be said of the Escort Cosworth with its ridiculous whale tail in the 90's


At least it was an option on the Escos thumbsup

The same can't be said with these two ugly sisters Sad

oh, by the way, they have made another one:






 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be too embarrassed to be seen driving that let alone want to buy it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certainly not subtle but I'm sure they are well put together - not my taste - built for a different cultural market I would suggest.

Wonder how much it would cost to put the bodywork back to standard and keep the oily bits.......
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:25 pm    Post subject: Extremely Rare and Valuable 1986 Gemballa Avalanche / Cyrrus Reply with quote

The Gemballa Cyrrus and Avalanche are Iconic 80's cars.

It does not matter if you like them or loathe them they bring back the excess of the good old days.

The Avalanche has a Ruf engine and extremely low mileage. I have seen standard Porsche flatnose 930 with a ruf engine sell for £300k. From reading other write ups on the 1986 Avalanche these things could be worth £1m+ as they are rare (1 of 13 built over 8 years). 0-60mph in 3.6 sec, and the car cost £500k in 1986.

This was the first of the mega expensive cars, so I will definately be watching how much this goes for.

The Cyrrus is apparently one of 8 cars built over 8 years so to have the pair at the same auction will make for interesting viewing.

Out of all the Lambos, Ferrari's, Maserati's, other Porsches and supercars such as the Enzo these are the only 2 making headlines on all the car portals and even GQ magazine.

I personally love these cars and I hope they go for the true value that they are worth.
 
  
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