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Dealers & sellers price hike review

MNC911

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Pricing structure review 2016 to 2017.

Is the 997.2 Porsche's second saviour as they are still increasing by £2k to £5k from last year (2016)? There's also a lot of C2 (3.6) for sale compared with the previous models popular big brother C2S (3.8).

They must be popular with CO2 tax, PDK and reliability.
 
for 997.1 the 3.8 C2S was the car that sold in volumes against the 3.6 Carrera

fast forward to 2008 and with the financial crisis and the price hike from the weak GBP, a lot more buyers opted for the updated 997.2 3.6 Carrera over the 3.8 C2S
 
:agree: and also Porsche's decision to increase the Official Warranty period available from 10 to 15 years has made all standard 997s more attractive to buy.

This has pushed the ceiling prices up and dragged values of all other cars up with it.
 
I also believe history of the 3.8 scoring problems would have also played a part. Plus many buyers would be made aware the new 997.2 C2 is on par with the previous S model at the launch. For the price tag the PDK was like a must have even for the majority of manual die hards.
 
What about the man maths comparison of a Golf R or 911 for 10 Bananas.....ill take the 911, thus driving up prices. It's how I justify most things
 
There are a lot of Gen 1 cars on the market currently. I think prices have stayed the same. There are some dreamers with low mileage examples which are driving up the top end, but the bread and butter is much the same as when I bought mine. If you're waiting for the unicorn car the price will rise accordingly, however there are a lot of average spec cars for pretty reasonable cash. The 996 residuals have done a lot better than the 997 this year. Still pretty depreciation free motoring though!

Turbos are another topic altogether as these have started to command strong money!
 
What is the majority verdict on Turbo prices? They're obviously selling well and for a handsome pocket of wealth.

Is there a fear prices may tumble the more we see 991's are becoming easier to obtain for far less
 
MNC911 said:
I also believe history of the 3.8 scoring problems would have also played a part. Plus many buyers would be made aware the new 997.2 C2 is on par with the previous S model at the launch. For the price tag the PDK was like a must have even for the majority of manual die hards.

Porsche marketed the all new 3.8 Carrera S very heavily inc the legendary piss by Clarkson on take Top Gear of the 997 3.6 being the clone of the 996 3.6 and the one to buy was the all new 3.8.

Thus they sold in greater volumes and conversely there were more 3.8 cars engine issues, although the actual % of 997.1 between the 3.6 and 3.8 is similar, just more 3.8 cars on the ground that made it feel like a 3.8 issue

At Oct 2005, the RRP of the 997.1 were
- 3.6 Carrera = £59,070
- 3.6 Carrera 4 = £62,930
- 3.8 Carrera S = £65,860
- 3.8 Carrera 4S = £69,900
- 3.6 911 [996] Turbo = £90,360
- 3.6 911 [996] Turbo S = £99,300


Fast forward to Dec 2007, the RRP of the 997.1 were
- 3.6 Carrera = £61,620
- 3.6 Carrera 4 = £65,820
- 3.6 Targa 4 = £71,290
- 3.8 Carrera S = £68,750
- 3.8 Carrera 4S = £72,950
- 3.8 Targa 4S = £78,420
- 3.6 911 Turbo = £99,920

just over a year later by Jan 2009, the RRP of the 997.2 were
- 3.6 Carrera = £62,899
- 3.6 Carrera 4 = £67,243
- 3.6 Targa 4 = £72,749
- 3.8 Carrera S = £70,190
- 3.8 Carrera 4S = £74,534
- 3.8 Targa 4S = £80,823
- 3.8 911 Turbo = £101,243

by the Gen 2 997, the 3.8 wasn't anything all new so the market shifted towards the base 3.6, which is why the 997.2 range launched amongst others the GTS editions
 
I was at RSJ the independant dealer. Who was saying 911.2 C2/S in general has gone up about 3 to 4 since last yr. And probably about 1 to 2K tops for gen1 cars.

There also appears to be a smaller demand for the manual back in 2009 as most buyers went after the PDK model. So I am starting to understand why I started to upset dealers when I was going after 38K for a lowish millege car. :roll:

So something for owners out there to think about to keep holding on to their cars....997 gen 2 cars are the last of best in it breed it seems.

991s are nice and I have test drove one, but in general it does feel that the car is a lot less mechanical over all.
 
Someone I know has just been offered a 5K premium over what he paid by his OPC to buy back his C4S 997.2 (presumably to sell on at another 5K premium!).

At the start of the summer you could find average mileage 997.2s floating around in the mid 30K range. Not many of those available now!
 
The prices will start to fall slightly in autumn and winter as is usual for sports cars. I'm not surprised that prices have risen from spring to summer.
 
Stephen603 said:
So something for owners out there to think about to keep holding on to their cars....997 gen 2 cars are the last of best in it breed it seems.

+1

Said much the same on here more than once..that's the best summary I think.
 
As with all models of 911 the 991 will have its day.It just needs to be a couple of generations old.Just history repeating itself. :thumbs:
 

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