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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:43 pm    Post subject: Exhaust shims for the tailpipes, Anyone Interested UPDATE Reply with quote

I have been asked a question about interest in the pr of shims that fit between the tail pipes and the end of the exhaust . They have a habit of breaking up usually into 3 pieces . A guy I know who is involved with an engineering fabricator has just made a set up for a customer who could not source them anywhere including going to Dansk which is the only place I knew of that had them in the past.
I am told they are a match for the original in steel.
Is any one interested, if they are he will make up a batch to sell to forum members.
I have seen posts in the past from guys asking where to get them from and I know you cannot buy them separately from Porsche they only come with new tips.
I will be interested in hearing your thoughts
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Note, I have nothing or no interests with the fabricator and am only gauging interest to assist any members who are searching for these items. Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very surprised there is not more interest for these, there have been several threads on here about trying to source the olives.

I'd be interested in a set Phil, are they in stainless steel? If they could be machined from a suitably sized stainless tube they could be spat out at a reasonable cost, if they have to be machined from solid might be expensive!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, i'm interested as mine were defo showing small cracks last time i had them off.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DucatiRob wrote:
Very surprised there is not more interest for these, there have been several threads on here about trying to source the olives.

I'd be interested in a set Phil, are they in stainless steel? If they could be machined from a suitably sized stainless tube they could be spat out at a reasonable cost, if they have to be machined from solid might be expensive!


Rob he was talking about doing them in steel like the OE ,I am not sure if Stainless is an option but will ask . Thumb I agree I am surprised and expected more interest as they are going to be breaking up on lots of cars .
he was talking about a price of £35 does that sound reasonable .
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

£35 sounds good to me Phil. Will he be able to include the grooves or "splines" around the outside?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

£35 is not too bad, they would be pennies if they ran a good size batch, but that would need to be hundreds and hundreds.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil - this is a great find. About 6 months ago I had to buy some second hand tail pipes just for the shims!

As a note to owners that don't think they need them... YET! If you ever intend on taking off your tail pipes for a darn good clean, then I recommend you have a pair of shims ready. When i asked my indy if he had any spares knocking around (when i removed my tail pipes), he said that almost every gen 1 shim is in 2 to 3 pieces once removed - so any spares would have long gone!

In fact, on this basis, a small batch should be dispatched to every indy Grin
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob325114 wrote:
Phil - this is a great find. About 6 months ago I had to buy some second hand tail pipes just for the shims!

As a note to owners that don't think they need them... YET! If you ever intend on taking off your tail pipes for a darn good clean, then I recommend you have a pair of shims ready. When i asked my indy if he had any spares knocking around (when i removed my tail pipes), he said that almost every gen 1 shim is in 2 to 3 pieces once removed - so any spares would have long gone!

In fact, on this basis, a small batch should be dispatched to every indy Grin


Thanks Rob , thats an interesting idea , I will ask my friend to call a few indys and see what they say. Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is going to make up a few so I can post some pics and see what you think.
I was not sure on the price of £35 each Dont know Question is that a bit pricey or ok what do you guys think Question difficult one as they are not available anywhere so I can judge that price . I guess the bigger the batch he makes the cheaper they get,but for a small batch run I suppose he's going to incur extra costs and it has to be worth his time to manufacture them. There is no extra vat on that price.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great work Phill! Surely every Indy would take a batch of say 10 at about £25 each giving the Indy some profit.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

silvermilnec wrote:
Great work Phill! Surely every Indy would take a batch of say 10 at about £25 each giving the Indy some profit.


I have suggested that to him and hes going to make some calls Thumb it he can get a decent number hopefully that will improve the cost . Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great news Phil, and very timely post for me, i would certainly be interested in a set to fit on the PSE GEN 2 exhaust as fitted to my GTS.

i recently removed my tips which i have to say are in a terrible state and one of the olives broke in two as i removed the tip. i'm still needing to sort the tips out and actually looking to get them rechromed they are that bad!

i will certainly need to find a solution come refitting time for my broken Olive. i think the price in the region of £30 is fair given the lack of availability. what would be the expect timescales?

thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the first samples will be ready in the next few days , they are going to be made of Stainless Steel from what I am told so that will be an improvement on the original OE ones. I will be helping the manufacturer trial fit them so he can be sure everything is perfect before he manufactures a batch for sale. I will post pics as soon as I have got a pr and keep you posted on availability timings. but they are aware a few of you are waiting for them. Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

basilbrush wrote:
great news Phil, and very timely post for me, i would certainly be interested in a set to fit on the PSE GEN 2 exhaust as fitted to my GTS.

i recently removed my tips which i have to say are in a terrible state and one of the olives broke in two as i removed the tip. i'm still needing to sort the tips out and actually looking to get them rechromed they are that bad!

i will certainly need to find a solution come refitting time for my broken Olive. i think the price in the region of £30 is fair given the lack of availability. what would be the expect timescales?

thanks!


Tony, I will also get a trial fit of them to a gen2 with PSE and without PSE so he knows which models they fit and if he needs to tweak them at all . Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent cheers Phil Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so the sample set has been produced and trial fitted to a 997.2 and yes the also fit the gen2 . when trial fitting them it was noted that they were a little too long and did not contract fully to fit so a small modification has been done to enlarge the gap slightly. It was also noted that they were quite awkward to fit as they had a tendency to try and twist while putting in and this is clearly why Porsche don't sell them as a separate item and the factory probably has special tooling to fit them.
The engineer making these is a perfectionist and has now fabricated a fitting tool to make our lives easy.

At this point I must add I am nothing to do with the company or won't be profiting from the sales, but they are a local company and the guys doing it are known to me which is why I have been happy to help.

IMO these are better than the original now as
1 they are made of stainless steel
2 they look the same as the original
3 they are available to buy which the OE ones are not
4 they are going to be sold in 3 formats to suit every person so no need to buy bits you dont want to.

They will be sold this way and these are the prices they are talking about.
1 a kit consisting of 2 inserts and a fitting tool £80
2 a pr of inserts £70
3 a single insert £40

I have some photos of the sample , they want to carry out a couple more trials and set up a how to buy option then are good to go. I will keep you posted. Thumb Grin
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good thumbsup
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, as part of the trial I have now fitted a pair of these to my 997.1 C2S that does not have PSE.
I think they are great, look and feel like OEM and they are staying on the car.
Below is detail of how they look and how I fitted them (description at the top of each picture). It is worth mentioning that this is the third time I have removed my exhaust tips and so it is pretty easy - the first time I did it (when they were about 9 years old) it was a pain as they didn't want to shift !

PS Had to add in three posts due to 10 attachment per post limit.
PPS Yes the car was dirty - it got cleaned later when the sun was not so strong !
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

. . . continued
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

. . . . continued - final instalment.
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