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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: good luck Reply with quote

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Thank you! I hope the car meets my expectations as I am already dreaming about driving it! thumbsup
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: good luck Reply with quote

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Thank you! I hope the car meets my expectations as I am already dreaming about driving it! thumbsup


Took a close look at the car this morning. It's even more pristine than it looked in the pics. Really in immaculate cosmetic shape. The prior owner, to ready it for sale, recently put in a good £3500 in new brakes, tyres, spark plugs, etc. I drove it for a good 20-30 minutes and fell in love instantly. What a car!
I made a larger deposit subject to a Porsche PPI, which the seller was more than comfortable with. The closest Porsche center is the one in Chiswick (Porsche of West London). Does anyone have any experience with them, good or bad? Also, in regards to the PPI, anything to be mindful of/ensure is covered (i.e. Anything I should request especially)? Again many thanks for the comments and advice so far
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As it's a standard car just ask them to check what it would need for it to get an OPC warranty.

In 90 days (or later if the dealer warranty is worthwhile) you'd be able to buy one.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As it's a standard car just ask them to check what it would need for it to get an OPC warranty.

In 90 days (or later if the dealer warranty is worthwhile) you'd be able to buy one.


Thanks. That's very helpful.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope the PPI goes well for you. Mezger turbo with a manual gearbox is rare. Then add-in low mileage and it becomes even more desirable.

The tan leather interior goes out the window because you have such a tiny narrow choice of finding such a vehicle. You quite like it, I like it. If someone doesn't, they could be looking a long time for an interior colour of their choice or an interior they could live with for a low mileage 997 turbo with the coveted manual gearbox and a seller who has throw £3.5k into the vehicle prior to sale.

The PPI is aimed at assessing the car for an OPC warranty. But you'll need to wait 90 days and have it done again if you want the OPC warranty. This first PPI is only valid 7 days but will give you a good view on the state of the car and you can use the 90 day wait period to act on anything they highlight - which you'll have to do anyway in 90 days.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hope the PPI goes well for you. Mezger turbo with a manual gearbox is rare. Then add-in low mileage and it becomes even more desirable.

The tan leather interior goes out the window because you have such a tiny narrow choice of finding such a vehicle. You quite like it, I like it. If someone doesn't, they could be looking a long time for an interior colour of their choice or an interior they could live with for a low mileage 997 turbo with the coveted manual gearbox and a seller who has throw £3.5k into the vehicle prior to sale.

The PPI is aimed at assessing the car for an OPC warranty. But you'll need to wait 90 days and have it done again if you want the OPC warranty. This first PPI is only valid 7 days but will give you a good view on the state of the car and you can use the 90 day wait period to act on anything they highlight - which you'll have to do anyway in 90 days.

Good luck with the purchase.


Thank you for this reassuring post. Helpful to understand how exactly a Porsche PPI works and what it is then able to be used for. In my case, I primarily want to ensure there's no major red flag with the car. I am not sure yet whether I will look to buy a warranty at all and instead just sort of self-insure by putting that money and other funds aside. Any strong views on warranty or not? I figured by ten years and 35k miles most of the major disastrous issues would have surfaced but perhaps I am too optimistic?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion, I think you are being optimistic. The Turbo is a high maintenance car and was a £100k+ car when new. Things break, things wear, and the bills can be eye-watering expensive. Look up T8's post on his warranty when bought his 997 Turbo.

I don't know the exclusions in an OPC warranty, but as warranty's go, I'd guess its the best out there.

You could set a sum of money aside of course or keep a slush fund of £2k each year. Its your choice at the end of the day. Maybe others who do/do not have an OPC warranty may share their experience two years post purchase of repairs and costs?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In my opinion, I think you are being optimistic. The Turbo is a high maintenance car and was a £100k+ car when new. Things break, things wear, and the bills can be eye-watering expensive. Look up T8's post on his warranty when bought his 997 Turbo.



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Maybe others who do/do not have an OPC warranty may share their experience two years post purchase of repairs and costs?"

It just so happens I have been compiling the service and maintenance record of my 2007 997T earlier today in case I decide to sell it..... putting all the details in Excel.... that sort of thing.

I bought the one owner car in May 2013 and in 4 years have spent just over £11k on servicing and maintenance; including warranty costs after the second year of ownership. The warranty is currently in place until May 2018 so that skews the 4 year view of costs a little bit. Costs have included a new clutch a month ago (@43k miles). New front brakes and discs a couple of years ago. New tyres all round, MOTs etc. Has the warranty paid for itself? Perhaps it's broken even, new starter motor, new compressor, new CD changer, new radiator.... nothing major..... oh and all serviced at my local OPC.

Overall, I think it has been pretty reasonable.....
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, just a quick update and request for more advice!

I finally got through to Porsche of West London, and they aren't taking any bookings until June 21! Sad I have to say, I haven't been impressed as they also told me three times they would call me back and didn't. I had to call multiple times and wait on hold just for someone to tell me to F off, basically, as the 21st is way too late not only for me but also for the seller.

So, what to do. I have called Porsche of Guildford as well, who also promised to call me back because all "technicians are busy." I am wondering if anyone would advise me to go for an Indy PPI? One that was recommended, admittedly by the seller, is Porsche Torque (http://www.porsche-torque.co.uk/). Does anyone have any experience with them? Or any other third-party providers for a sanity check?

many thanks, yet again.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live very close to Porsche Chiswick but I take my Turbo and previous 993 to GT One in Chertsey but RPM did do the PPI for the Turbo. GT One are also busy but may be able to help you in a quicker time once you explain the sale hangs on it.

For the record i would certainly have looked at the RPM turbo too, id like a road car with the PCCb's.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...... Porsche Torque (http://www.porsche-torque.co.uk/). Does anyone have any experience with them? ..........



Sid at Porsche Torque is well known to many on 911uk

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just hung up with the seller. He is happy to cooperate with any PPI, either Porsche or an Indy. However, he advised he himself had an pre-purchase inspection done to determine what the car needed. He is happy to share the results/report with me. Plus, he said he can get me a full-vehicle one-year warranty (WMS Warranty would be the provider) that can and should provide additional comfort.

I have to say, it sounds like a compelling solution to me since I was thinking of getting a warranty anyway, and this allows me to experience the car for the entire first year care-free (whereas the Porsche warranty wouldn't start until 90 days later).

What say you?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Difficult situation to be in and its a private sale.

Your call how to proceed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get your own PPI done. It's just not worth the risk.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In my opinion, I think you are being optimistic. The Turbo is a high maintenance car and was a £100k+ car when new. Things break, things wear, and the bills can be eye-watering expensive. Look up T8's post on his warranty when bought his 997 Turbo.

I don't know the exclusions in an OPC warranty, but as warranty's go, I'd guess its the best out there.

You could set a sum of money aside of course or keep a slush fund of £2k each year. Its your choice at the end of the day. Maybe others who do/do not have an OPC warranty may share their experience two years post purchase of repairs and costs?


I bought my 997.1 turbo from an Indy almost exactly two yeas ago. It came with a years warranty that covered the replacement actuator rods on the turbos that seized after 6months. I've covered 16k miles ( now 70k on the clock) in the last two years which is 10k more than planed as it's only a weekend toy! It's such fun to drive the honeymoon period hasn't ended and any excuse and it's out the garage and on the road!

I didn't renew the warranty, and the only other expense I've had that is not self inflicted to date is replacement of cooing pipework last year circa £1000.

Be warned self inflicted costs can spiral out of control!
Spare set of wheel with winter tyres £2k
Extra sticky pilot sport cup 2 tyres for summer £1k
20mm lower suspension £600
TPC DSC racing module £1k
Full detailing, ceramic coating & ppf £2.5k
Europipe exhaust £3.5k
Front end re-spray £1k

Add in road tax, insurance and an annual service and some super unleaded and before you know what's happened it's cost you £10k a year.

Good job these things don't depreciate!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just remembered I had 4 of the 8 wheels refurbished, bought 4 wheel spacers and a private number plate that all cost another £2k.

If I also alow the £10k I spend building a garage to put it in, it's been quite expensive.

I take my hat off to anyone that can run one of these on a £2k slush fund! I don't want to put you off, they are awesome and I have absolutely no regrets but best to get in on this well informed.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I refer to a £2k slush fund this is for items and repairs and consumables that are necessary between annual services. One year it may not be use, another year exceeded. It does not include discretionary spend, insurance, MOT and Road Tax. It may be used to act on advisories discovered at an annual service.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When I refer to a £2k slush fund this is for items and repairs and consumables that are necessary between annual services. One year it may not be use, another year exceeded. It does not include discretionary spend, insurance, MOT and Road Tax. It may be used to act on advisories discovered at an annual service.


Understood, and I was not intending to belittle the comment.

I thought it best to demonstrate to a perspective new owner how reliable and relatively maintenance free these 10 year old super cars can be. But that being said, how easy it is to get carried away spending money on them once they get under your skin!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further to my response regarding all the warranty work I've had done the upside is that, beyond the cost of the warranty, running one of these superb cars can work out tremendously cost effective.

See => 28 months running a 997 Turbo
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