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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boba fett wrote:
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I think I live in a parallel universe. I've browsed a few posts on this thread with interest. Having just spent 10 minutes in the boys room I picked up a copy of GT Porsche (September edition) and see that RSJ have 4 gen 1 turbo's for sale priced from £48 to £56k. 3 tip and one manual. They certainly seem plentiful. How come some are £90k? Ultra low mileage?


I think its still about the manual to be honest, the RSJ car is a silver manual with nearly 60k miles, and they are still looking for £57k Thumb


I was thinking the manual commanded a premium but the difference between manual and tip don't seem huge. But I ain't no market guru. Anyway, nice to see turbo prices holding firm. thumbsup
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norfolk & Idea wrote:
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Norfolk & Idea wrote:
I think I live in a parallel universe. I've browsed a few posts on this thread with interest. Having just spent 10 minutes in the boys room I picked up a copy of GT Porsche (September edition) and see that RSJ have 4 gen 1 turbo's for sale priced from £48 to £56k. 3 tip and one manual. They certainly seem plentiful. How come some are £90k? Ultra low mileage?


I think its still about the manual to be honest, the RSJ car is a silver manual with nearly 60k miles, and they are still looking for £57k Thumb


I was thinking the manual commanded a premium but the difference between manual and tip don't seem huge. But I ain't no market guru. Anyway, nice to see turbo prices holding firm. thumbsup


Yes its nice to see Porsche's appreciating, its all been Lambo's and Fezza's having all the fun.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.......I picked up a copy of GT Porsche (September edition) and see that RSJ have 4 gen 1 turbo's for sale priced from £48 to £56k. 3 tip and one manual. They certainly seem plentiful. How come some are £90k? Ultra low mileage?



Yep, it's the low mileage that makes the difference.

If everything else is equal a manual will normally be advertised for about 10% more than a Tip' simply because of supply v demand.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boba fett wrote:
Norfolk & Idea wrote:
I think I live in a parallel universe. I've browsed a few posts on this thread with interest. Having just spent 10 minutes in the boys room I picked up a copy of GT Porsche (September edition) and see that RSJ have 4 gen 1 turbo's for sale priced from £48 to £56k. 3 tip and one manual. They certainly seem plentiful. How come some are £90k? Ultra low mileage?


I think its still about the manual to be honest, the RSJ car is a silver manual with nearly 60k miles, and they are still looking for £57k Thumb


RSJ do seem to price their cars pretty fairly and on the whole (one incident that I know of aside) they do get a good write-up.

I agree with Bobba, low miles is key in the Turbo market but the silver car does seem to represent good VFM when compared to some. You can improve a tired car but you can't [ligitimately] reverse high miles.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is it just me or do those wheels on that first one look shockingly bad?!


I think those are the worst wheels I've seen on a turbo.


Those wheels are disgustingly bad nooo

The second one looks nice, if a little down on power Question

Will swap my OEM gen 2 turbo alloys for those alloys if someone buys this car:)
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DaveH911 wrote:
apollokre1d wrote:
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Is it just me or do those wheels on that first one look shockingly bad?!


I think those are the worst wheels I've seen on a turbo.


Those wheels are disgustingly bad nooo

The second one looks nice, if a little down on power Question

Will swap my OEM gen 2 turbo alloys for those alloys if someone buys this car:)

To me, they would make more sense with a polished outer lip to at least make them look round!
OEM all the way.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To me, they would make more sense with a polished outer lip to at least make them look round!
OEM all the way.


You can polish the outer lip all you want, it isn't going to turn carbon fibre silver Wink
 
  
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To me, they would make more sense with a polished outer lip to at least make them look round!
OEM all the way.


You can polish the outer lip all you want, it isn't going to turn carbon fibre silver Wink


Oops! Embarassed Grin
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

997.2 turbos on the rise

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-turbo-997/porsche-911-997-gen-ii-turbo-pdk----------------2010/7649714

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-turbo-997/porsche-911-3-6-997-turbo-awd-2dr/7535572

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-turbo-997/porsche-911-997-gen-ii-turbo-s-pdk/7585324
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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997.2 turbos on the rise

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-turbo-997/porsche-911-997-gen-ii-turbo-pdk----------------2010/7649714

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-turbo-997/porsche-911-3-6-997-turbo-awd-2dr/7535572

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-turbo-997/porsche-911-997-gen-ii-turbo-s-pdk/7585324


I hope your right, my Gen2 with 9,000miles on should hopefully climb a little.
I don't think they'll go as far (%) as the 996, because the 991's are coming down, and there's not enough purist buyers, just the ones who will still want the latest shape, rather than the better car, so the space between them will restrict growth. Hope I'm wrong and I'm laughing like a F355 owner that bought in at £40k in 5-10 years!!

Do you think the mileage premium will be relative to the other cars in future, or simply just low miles, irrelevant of age. I'll be using mine, probably 3-5,000 miles a year, but I'm assuming so will the others who have already got 30k on the . Sure there'll be the odd one which just sits in the garage, but less and less with sub 10k... I'm hoping so as I want to use mine!!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, £110K for a 2011 Turbo S, must give them a ring and see how much they offer for mine with less miles.. lol..
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Haha, £110K for a 2011 Turbo S, must give them a ring and see how much they offer for mine with less miles.. lol..


Under offer according to their website. They sold a black 2011 S with 25k a few weeks ago that was advertised at £100k.

Big money for sure but very few for sale at any given time. I am sure they would make you a good offer if you gave them an opportunity.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd buy you gen2 turbo S if you want to sell?
 
  
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Roger Barker
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That same dealer sold a pretty average spec black Turbo S (not the most recent one) for 100k some time back, since then prices have climbed again it seems, to even higher levels.

Not hard to see why- I'd pick a 997 gen 2 Turbo S or just 997 gen 2 over any equivalent 991 which I have test driven as IMO it's a much better looking car, is more engaging and has the performance benefits of pdk and new engine with monster power plus the looks and feel of the rawer, previous cars.

The added performance of a 991.1 is not felt on the road in regular spirited/fast driving and the 997 gen 2 for me performance wise as right at the limit I would want anyway, anything more would not interest me as I find the 997.2 Turbo S bonkers enough Very Happy

The 991.2 I can't comment on as I have not driven it- that is a level above speed wise, but is also very big money and has a lot of money to lose too most likely.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested to know what is considered "low spec" on a Gen 2 Turbo S
as most of the extras come included in S spec?

I'm not sure anything this side of a 991 gen 2 Turbo S can compete with the immediate thrust of the the 997 Turbo S (with 0-60 times tested by some at 2.7 secs).

I agree that the 997 shape is a more classic 911 look.
The 991 seems very big to me.
 
  
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In comparison to 997 gen 2 turbos - gen 1's are looking very good value. I would have to pay £20-30K extra or on top of the value of mine to get into a gen 2 PDK. I would expect to see gen 1 turbos to continue to climb (I'am hoping Smile )
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well damn...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709149290344
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That`s an acquired taste however £200k no sports seats I`m oot Very Happy
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apollokre1d wrote:
Well damn...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709149290344

Jungle Book PTS?
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Phill guna love that rear wing Grin
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