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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:18 am    Post subject: MaxA's 997.2 ‘Mr White’ project thread Reply with quote

I’ve learned from previous experience on other forums (for a?) that it is a good idea to keep a project thread, for sharing and in order to document the ideas, pitfalls and progress. So here goes.

We moved to Dubai last summer. It was too good an opportunity to pass up, so I settled on a budget, did my research, and bought a 2010 997.2 Carrera 4S in white. If you’ve been here in the summer, you’ll understand why it had to be white or silver. It had just 25,020km on the clock and the right spec (PSE, Sports seats, chrono pack). It came from the local OPC with a full warranty, which made it easier to finance and insure. (I doubt that I’ll stay with the OPC, as there is a very good independent called ARM about 3 minutes from my office, and because they can offer extended warranties on a modified car.) I was looking for a C2 or a C4, in the right colour and the right spec, with a manual gearbox, but manuals are hard to come by – it seems the only manuals in the market have a GT in the name. Right… And now that I’ve lived here a bit, and I’ve been using the car in Dubai traffic, I think I would have gone mad in a manual. This is, by the way, the first automatic that I’ve ever owned and I’m nearly 50. I’ve always swapped my own cogs…

The specification – for those who are interested - included sea blue leather interior, PDK, PSE, sports seats, the sport chrono pack, and Carrera Sports wheels in titanium with 8.5" wide fronts and 11.5" wide rears (apparently this was an option?) and Pirelli P Zero N2 tyres.

Having read that the 997 was pretty quiet, I was looking into the centre exhaust mod from Sharkwerks. Sharky was responsive and friendly, but before I pulled the trigger, I needed to take delivery (you need local ID and a driving license to register the car…). In retrospect, I’ve found the PSE is loud enough when flaps set for takeoff, and my 3.8 definitely sounds louder than my friend’s stock 997.1 3.6 Turbo under load. We think that a stealth mod may have been done somewhere.

I don’t have big plans to modify the car, as it is my daily driver, but I can’t resist a bit of tweaking. First of all, I wanted to fill out the arches, so I bought a set of 7mm front spacers and 12mm rears (as I have the slightly wider rear rims). To cut a long story short, the 7mm spacers don’t fit on the hubs with these wheels. There isn’t sufficient flange to hang the wheel and there was awful wheel wobble around 95-100kmh. I refitted them twice and even took them up to a local motorsport firm (they run three different sets of race cars at the Autodrome) and they concurred: the car wasn’t safe to drive. Instead, they test fitted the 12mm spacers intended for the rears, and they’ve stayed on: they look great and the car’s front end feels more planted to me. I ordered another set of 12mms for the rear end. They do help fill out the wide body arches…

The other issue was the steering wheel. It was a bit shiny (maybe the wrong cleaning product?), and it had the push/pull buttons. I couldn’t get on with them (they’re not intuitive at all) and I now have the later Porsche Sports steering wheel with the hollow metal spokes, nice long paddles, in the matching sea blue leather. And I love it, it really allows me to get the best out of the PDK and it’s 35 millisecond gear changes – the lack of torque interruption is really impressive. I still need to unlearn the old behaviour that I can’t change gear in the corner.

So there we are. This is Mr White*

*Sorry, it’s a nod to the café scene in Reservoir Dogs.
Grin
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MaxA
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And my name isn't Max, the username comes from a retired Finnish bloke called Marcus Gronholm, who used to mark the full power/special stage button in his rally cars MaxA for "Maximum Attack".

(Although I'm British, I'm married to a Finn, and I have lived in Finland for 15 years or so, and I'm a fan of Nokian Hakkapeliitta winter tyres).
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome. Just to warn you, someone will be along soon to say;

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome, but..... Useless
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as requested

http://imageshack.com/a/img922/8855/QiO3l6.jpg
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Max that looks lovely mate. Thumb Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats. You have exactly the same spec car as me. PSE, Chrono Plus, Sports Seats, PDK 4S.
You are obviously a discerning man of class and style Grin

Let's see some pictures please thumbsup
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks great Max. Look forward to hearing about your ownership. I have the Hayward and Scott center bypass which is a copy of the sharkwerks design. The car now sounds like it should and works very well with the pse so can easily turn it off for work and on for fun!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the Carrera Sport wheels. The 305 rears just look a bit more purposeful.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks chaps. I've got loads of pictures but resizing them all to <500 from 2MB is pain in the neck - what can't this forum do it automatically?Dont know

As to future plans, I need new vinyl shark fins for the rear arches as it looks like a big old dog has had a waz on each side of the car... any ideas where to get them? Question

And I'm still minded to remove the door cars and get the carpet bit re-trimmed in sea blue leather (as per my earlier discussion with Phil).

In the meantime, I'm trying to register at the next Driving Experience with the Porsche Club UAE. We'll be at the full 5.44km GP track at Yas Marina. thumbsup
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the stoneguards, I would probably just go to an OPC and buy genuine items. I don't think the price difference is that great and you will know they work.
The other option I'm considering is leaving mine until I have a clear bra fitted to the front apron and bonnet, and having the whole rear arch done also...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I'm thinking the same as they do look a bit crap frankly. And they may interfere with some future plans.
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 9972 at home
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

9972 C4S with 12mm TPI hubcentric spacers all round; by my calculations I now have 8.5x19 ET43 F and 11.5x19 ET38 R
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Max , Nice pics mate the Alloys come just in line with the arches nicely . Grin Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more. Looking for the different camera angle. Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another nice pic mate, but did you know someone has put your steering wheel on the wrong side Grin
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrong side? No, I find it every morning pretty much where I expect it to be... wack Although I'm still getting used to the starter which is definitely on the wrong side. Almost as bad as that SAAB Turbo* I had a few years ago... nooo




* back when turbo's were Turbos, wheels were spun, lines of traffic despatched in huge lunging overtakes (now illegal of course), sheep were frightened, and you had Turbo Gauges... none of this modern, ALS or torque limited nonsense.
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaxA wrote:
Wrong side? No, I find it every morning pretty much where I expect it to be... wack Although I'm still getting used to the starter which is definitely on the wrong side. Almost as bad as that SAAB Turbo* I had a few years ago... nooo




* back when turbo's were Turbos, wheels were spun, lines of traffic despatched in huge lunging overtakes (now illegal of course), sheep were frightened, and you had Turbo Gauges... none of this modern, ALS or torque limited nonsense.


LOL Well that's a good thing that the wheel is still where you left it each morning.

I remember those days, I had a wide body Mitsubishi Starion turbo at one point ,overtaking all those XR3i boys lol
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