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cat c 964

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ebay 964 cat c. was 24995 for a while down 2k now. Would you buy a cat c?

I looked at one a couple of weeks ago, it had been sorted pretty well, but I noticed fibre glass panels, which put me off.

what would people on here expect to pay for the one like on ebay?

I am in the market for a 964 but just waiting and looking, trouble is, its all I seem to do, lol.
 
I've always been against cat cars but if I were to buy a car that would be a keeper or something I would run into the ground, I'd consider a cat car if everything was properly done.

I've seen the advert for the eBay one, looks like a decent enough car. I would go and inspect it and have it up on a ramp if I were looking. Price seems ok if perfectly repaired tbh.
 
If the car was cat c recently then i would have a worry.If i am not mistaken the damage has to be 50 percent or more to right the car off so with todays values its going to take a bit of a serious whack before it becomes a cat car.On another note i have a ford racing puma that is a cat d and was written off for no other reason than the new panel it needed is unavailable new.
 
rsdub said:
If the car was cat c recently then i would have a worry.If i am not mistaken the damage has to be 50 percent or more to right the car off so with todays values its going to take a bit of a serious whack before it becomes a cat car.On another note i have a ford racing puma that is a cat d and was written off for no other reason than the new panel it needed is unavailable new.

I'm also in the market for a 964 at "entry-level" pricing.

I don't know if this was the car you guys were talking about?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361500932929?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I see it was written off in 2001. Does anyone know what the market value would have been back then?

I seem to recall looking to buy a C2 for around £16k in 2004, so maybe a repair bill of £10k would have written off a car in 2001?

Has anyone on here been to look at this car

Andy
 
andyp said:
rsdub said:
If the car was cat c recently then i would have a worry.If i am not mistaken the damage has to be 50 percent or more to right the car off so with todays values its going to take a bit of a serious whack before it becomes a cat car.On another note i have a ford racing puma that is a cat d and was written off for no other reason than the new panel it needed is unavailable new.

I'm also in the market for a 964 at "entry-level" pricing.

I don't know if this was the car you guys were talking about?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361500932929?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I see it was written off in 2001. Does anyone know what the market value would have been back then?

I seem to recall looking to buy a C2 for around £16k in 2004, so maybe a repair bill of £10k would have written off a car in 2001?

Has anyone on here been to look at this car

Andy



yeh that was it, its still around, I dident view it, but it looks ok on pics, its a lot of bread to shell out for a tainted car I suppose, I made my mind up, no category cars for me, that doesn't mean its not a winner.
 
Sunroof and doom blue will be putting a lot of people off more than the Cat C.
 
I would personally never buy a crashed or damaged car period. Sure the cosmetic stuff can be repaired but you just never know what other unseen damage has been done?
 
Whytar said:
I would personally never buy a crashed or damaged car period. Sure the cosmetic stuff can be repaired but you just never know what other unseen damage has been done?

There can be good Cat cars out there and a little damaged doesn`t really bother me but I would like to see how bad it was to start with. The usual problem with the Cat cars its it s the fear of the unknown.

If the owner had the crash pictures and evidence of the repair then I would have gone for it.
 
ultegra said:
Sunroof and doom blue will be putting a lot of people off more than the Cat C.


I thought all coupes of that era had sunroofs, unless it was factory delete.
 
Could be a great platform for a no fear fast road /track car or backdate as long as the chassis it good

I would take it to an aircooled specialist get it inspected and try to find out what the original damage was


Straight cars are getting on for double this now



:thumb:

NOTE yes you could get a sunroof delete option
 
the category system is Insurance only, and has no baring on anything else, the same rules apply to buying as you would any other car, inspect the thing, and check it over, then make your mind up as to purchase.
obviously a cat car has a lower value because of the kudos attached.
please remember there are thousands of heavy accident repared cars out there, hundreds of 911's that have not been subject to an Insurance claim, therefore have no cat attached,
it all depends on the quality of repair and/or condition.
a lot of porsches that suffer damage on a track etc, are not recorded, then repaired, and sold as normal, so do all your inspections on ANY car as thorough as you can.
catogory cars are no problem at all, as long as they have been repaired properly, and you take into account the difference the stigma and label will have on resale (its just that...a label)
i recently bought a flood damaged 997 turbo PDK (60 plate)it suffered water ingress up to the seat bases, and was given a cat B status, because of the risk of safety wiring such as air bags, pre tensioners etc failing due to rusting.
the car was immaculate pre flood with very low milage, i bought it for £40k under its book price........ it only cost £5k to replace 2 ECU'S seats, carpets, and loom various other small bits....then an SVA test to check the cars "repair" then a normal MOT and a re issued V5.

car was then as new, but it carries the stigma or label of a heavily damaged car (not)
so its not always as people think, sometimes its just a fiscal move, sometimes it can be very bad damage, you have to check and double check,.
do not be put off by labels, its the car and the cars repair/history that is paramount, not some paperwork that might be bogus in its self.
as mentioned if your thinking of keeping then they are very good value, if your purely into money, then its not for you.
i bet there are some badly repaired porches out there, that are not recorded, and plenty of lovely straight ones that are.
whats in a name.....
 
medicus said:
the category system is Insurance only, and has no baring on anything else, the same rules apply to buying as you would any other car, inspect the thing, and check it over, then make your mind up as to purchase.
obviously a cat car has a lower value because of the kudos attached.
please remember there are thousands of heavy accident repared cars out there, hundreds of 911's that have not been subject to an Insurance claim, therefore have no cat attached,
it all depends on the quality of repair and/or condition.
a lot of porsches that suffer damage on a track etc, are not recorded, then repaired, and sold as normal, so do all your inspections on ANY car as thorough as you can.
catogory cars are no problem at all, as long as they have been repaired properly, and you take into account the difference the stigma and label will have on resale (its just that...a label)
i recently bought a flood damaged 997 turbo PDK (60 plate)it suffered water ingress up to the seat bases, and was given a cat B status, because of the risk of safety wiring such as air bags, pre tensioners etc failing due to rusting.
the car was immaculate pre flood with very low milage, i bought it for £40k under its book price........ it only cost £5k to replace 2 ECU'S seats, carpets, and loom various other small bits....then an SVA test to check the cars "repair" then a normal MOT and a re issued V5.

car was then as new, but it carries the stigma or label of a heavily damaged car (not)
so its not always as people think, sometimes its just a fiscal move, sometimes it can be very bad damage, you have to check and double check,.
do not be put off by labels, its the car and the cars repair/history that is paramount, not some paperwork that might be bogus in its self.
as mentioned if your thinking of keeping then they are very good value, if your purely into money, then its not for you.
i bet there are some badly repaired porches out there, that are not recorded, and plenty of lovely straight ones that are.
whats in a name.....





its an interesting point regarding damaged cars that don't end up on the register, i have thought there must be many an owner who has badly smashed one and has his own bodyshop or his brother has one etc.

In a way it might be as you say, look at all cars like they have had a big bang, register or not, you could end up in a false sense of security otherwise.

Import cars, this must be a grey area, i would think its easy to bury any bad history of a car from the states etc.
 
Dream911 said:
Whytar said:
I would personally never buy a crashed or damaged car period. Sure the cosmetic stuff can be repaired but you just never know what other unseen damage has been done?

There car be good Cat cars out there and a little damaged doesn`t really bother me but I would like to see how bad it was to start with. The usual problem with the Cat cars its it s the fear of the unknown.

If the owner had the crash pictures and evidence of the repair then I would have gone for it.

i know a lot of folk have these concerns, but they are entirely unfounded, and ill tell you why.

its not unknown, because you check out the car, in every aspect, that goes for any purchase, not just a damaged car.
there could also be fear of the unknown when buying a car from a forecourt or private, at least with a cat car, you know from the get go, that there "was" a problem and can investigate properly, if its not recorded, you might not look as hard?
forewarned is forearmed
 
medicus said:
i recently bought a flood damaged 997 turbo PDK (60 plate)it suffered water ingress up to the seat bases, and was given a cat B status, because of the risk of safety wiring such as air bags, pre tensioners etc failing due to rusting.
the car was immaculate pre flood with very low milage, i bought it for £40k under its book price........ it only cost £5k to replace 2 ECU'S seats, carpets, and loom various other small bits....then an SVA test to check the cars "repair" then a normal MOT and a re issued V5.

Have the rules changed :?: ....I thought CAT B cars were so badly damaged they could only be broken for spares? Thougt the idea was to remove CAT B damaged cars from ever reappearing on public roads.

:?:
 
Dream911 said:
medicus said:
i recently bought a flood damaged 997 turbo PDK (60 plate)it suffered water ingress up to the seat bases, and was given a cat B status, because of the risk of safety wiring such as air bags, pre tensioners etc failing due to rusting.
the car was immaculate pre flood with very low milage, i bought it for £40k under its book price........ it only cost £5k to replace 2 ECU'S seats, carpets, and loom various other small bits....then an SVA test to check the cars "repair" then a normal MOT and a re issued V5.

Have the rules changed :?: ....I thought CAT B cars were so badly damaged they could only be broken for spares? Thougt the idea was to remove CAT B damaged cars from ever reappearing on public roads.

:?:

there has never been rules so to speak the categories are just for Insurance purposes and are guidelines only, you can fix/repair/or even build your own car from scratch (kit cars etc) they just have to be inspected as i mentioned (FULL SVA test)
so any cat can be put back on the road. i have had a few cat D cars, 2 cat C and 1 cat B
the cat B car has a marker applied to the V5C that cannot be removed.

i know a lot of people don't know this, and think they must be for spares only, but thats not true.
 

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