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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately this is not the update I wanted to be posting here. After a one month dispute; FVD have finally accepted that there is a problem with the parts they supplied me with.

Initially, they refused to accept there was a problem with the rods that I returned. As a consequence, they would not send me a replacement set of rods as they believed we were making a mistake. I was repeatedly told "we have sold hundreds of these rods and have never had a problem". As you can imagine this caused considerable frustration to my engine builder and myself.

This stalemate went on for several weeks until they finally tried to fit the rods to a 964 crankshaft. What took my engine builder 10 minutes to see, took FVD 2 weeks to recognise. I did not even receive and apology for the inconvenience caused. They did offer to sell me another set of rods at 10% discount. This wouldn't cover the cost of my time and my engine builders time to resolve this issue. Not to mention the fact my engine build has been delayed by over a month.

They have sent these back to Carrillo to be checked and I have received a refund. I fully accept that manufacturing errors can happen however, the customer service experience to reach this conclusion has been appalling.

It appears I will use the factory rods for my build now. I have spoken to George (my engine builder) about this and it appears I owe Ken an apology. The bushing/pin size is compatible with the 3.8 pistons. It is the rod width to fit the piston connection that needs modified. As Ken has said here, I simply need to machine the SE width down from 25 mm to 23 mm to fit the piston connection. I will order new fasteners this week and hopefully the build will resume next week.

Sigh...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to here about your problems sunshine...
Goes to show how lucky we all are on here to have the likes of Ken and Dyno Mike to show some clear headed thinking and wisdom. Thanks for being there guy's Thumb

Good luck with the rest of the build and let's hope it's plain sailing from here on in. Keep us posted thumbsup
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to say not surprised - every 3.8L 964 we have done including last month we always have machine work to make everything fit, even using Mahle.

I presume you have checked that the barrels fit the heads? We always machine those to fit a better sealing ring as a matter of course.

If I had a pound for every aftermarket shop that said we have fitted/sold hundreds I would be retired Grin - in most cases they don't have a clue I'm afraid.

Let's hope it moves forward quickly now.

I would suggest you make sure your builder measures the compression before you get too far in your re build. DO NOT assume that the compression they tell you is correct. I know a lot of engines that have blown up relying on what they have been sold when in fact compression is different. Also compression will change higher if you have to machine the heads/barrels and reduce is you do valve work.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Chief/Ken,

We have checked the new barrels already. My engine is an M64/1 so my heads do need to be modified. This is already the plan. The heads will get machined this week along with the rods.

Thanks again for the input.

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least its progress Ryan, if not what you had planed.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Have to say not surprised - every 3.8L 964 we have done including last month we always have machine work to make everything fit, even using Mahle.


I'd agree with that Ken. When Redtek did my 3.8 build (Mahle pistons) there was quite a lot of machining to do. I don't know how people manage to tackle these builds at home, they must have big ****s Grin

Good luck Ryan, I hope all goes well!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ken,

What supplier do you use for the barrel to head sealing ring/gasket? It sounds like you typically use a non standard item. Something like this?

http://www.fvd.de/de/en/Porsche-0/-11-20/-/-/item/item_details/VID_22949476-VCD_36862159-gid_39-sort_4-display_50-item_FVD104999993/Tuning_-_Engine_-_Sport_Piston___Cylinder_FVD104999993_Gasket_`Le_Mans`_113mm_only_for_MAHLE_Cylinders_3_05mm.html

I can't seem to find anything suitable on the patrick motorsport website.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rkelly wrote:
Hi Ken,

What supplier do you use for the barrel to head sealing ring/gasket? It sounds like you typically use a non standard item. Something like this?

http://www.fvd.de/de/en/Porsche-0/-11-20/-/-/item/item_details/VID_22949476-VCD_36862159-gid_39-sort_4-display_50-item_FVD104999993/Tuning_-_Engine_-_Sport_Piston___Cylinder_FVD104999993_Gasket_`Le_Mans`_113mm_only_for_MAHLE_Cylinders_3_05mm.html

I can't seem to find anything suitable on the patrick motorsport website.


Cheers,
Ryan


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