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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:01 pm    Post subject: Engine mounts - 996 options... Reply with quote

I have a shot engine mount. I was intending to replace just the one with OEM but looking in to it further I think it's best I do both and probably upgrade to semi-solid.

I see there appear to be less options in the UK than in the US and that Design 911 (and probably others) have recently put the prices of RSS and Rennline up by about 100 quid.

Are there any other options to consider? Any to be avoided? Anywhere with a discount on?!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

massive thread on here around engine mounts and just search.

I am looking to go for the 993 RS engine mounts as they are not as harsh as semi solid and £200 for the whole kit.

is yours a track car? replacing engine mounts to OEM can have a big change on the ride and feel too. plenty of oem and other options.

RSS or Torque solutions mounts will induce more noise into the cabin that's for sure.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I changed from stock OEM engine mounts to RSS last year. Think I sourced them from Design 911 who were about the cheapest at the time. The difference is huge and the car now handles like it's on rails Very Happy .

However be aware there is a significant increase in cabin noise and vibration which may get annoying if the car is a daily driver.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hacka1979 wrote:
I changed from stock OEM engine mounts to RSS last year. Think I sourced them from Design 911 who were about the cheapest at the time. The difference is huge and the car now handles like it's on rails Very Happy .

However be aware there is a significant increase in cabin noise and vibration which may get annoying if the car is a daily driver.


I did the same a couple of years ago in my turbo. As said a large improvement but I'm not sure there was a large increase in noise and vibration, maybe I have the radio on too loud Razz . I do 9000 a year in it as a daily driver and find it fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used rennline semi solid adjustable mounts on my 997.1 on the softest bushing they were livable with as a daily but there was a little NVH . I am just trialing FF semi semi solids on my gen2 these are new OE mounts filled with eurathane, my initial thoughts are similar NVH to semi solids but they may settle and bed in even the semi solids bed in a little over a few miles etc. if not I am thinking about the 993RS mounts as an option as I hear they have little or no NVH but need to see that for myself. Thumb at the end of the day dont dismiss just new OE mounts as they will be so much better than 15/16 yr old mounts. Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rennline's on mine were installed just last week, and yep they are a bit pricey. Think it was £340 inc discount.

As said, noticeable NVH which is like a constant thrum which you can feel in the driver seat, but trade-off for me was the massive improvement in the gearshift
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NLW73 wrote:
massive thread on here around engine mounts and just search.

I am looking to go for the 993 RS engine mounts as they are not as harsh as semi solid and £200 for the whole kit.

is yours a track car? replacing engine mounts to OEM can have a big change on the ride and feel too. plenty of oem and other options.

RSS or Torque solutions mounts will induce more noise into the cabin that's for sure.


Thanks. No, not a track car.
I did read the other thread but was left with the above questions.
Where are the 964/993 RS mounts available for £200 all in, OPC? Thanks very much.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Type 911 do aftermarket RS mounts for £96 the pair.
They seem to have tightened things up significantly.
I did need longer bolts for the 996
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McSwerve wrote:
Type 911 do aftermarket RS mounts for £96 the pair.
They seem to have tightened things up significantly.
I did need longer bolts for the 996


Thanks for that, just what I wanted to hear. They have the pair for £96 or a kit with all bolts/washers etc for £125 - have asked them if these bolts are ok for 996 application.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a lot of money for a few nuts and bolts!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maldren wrote:
That's a lot of money for a few nuts and bolts!


Ah, but they are genuine Porsche RS items thus include both the Porsche tax and the RS tax! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JS1500 wrote:
McSwerve wrote:
Type 911 do aftermarket RS mounts for £96 the pair.
They seem to have tightened things up significantly.
I did need longer bolts for the 996


Thanks for that, just what I wanted to hear. They have the pair for £96 or a kit with all bolts/washers etc for £125 - have asked them if these bolts are ok for 996 application.
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hmmmmm - interesting!

Definitely want to see what the impression re. these is once you've fitted them (sounds like you've pretty much made the decision Laughing)

I've polybushed my suspension, including the subframe mounts - as a result the car is lovely and connected..... but this meant that RSS mounts introduced terrible NVH when I fitted them to assess the NVH (my indie had already opted to omit fitting the RSS mounts as part of a suspension overhaul due to this suspicion, but I had to prove this to myself - turns out he was right again!)

The 993 RS mounts are the first option I've seen that might be just that bit firmer than 996 OEM, yet still usable in my application
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JS1500 wrote:
McSwerve wrote:
Type 911 do aftermarket RS mounts for £96 the pair.
They seem to have tightened things up significantly.
I did need longer bolts for the 996


Thanks for that, just what I wanted to hear. They have the pair for £96 or a kit with all bolts/washers etc for £125 - have asked them if these bolts are ok for 996 application.
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McSwerve - did it make any harsher or noisier ?
JS1500 - do you have the part number or link ?

Are these for 996tt?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

think I've found them.

http://type911shop.co.uk/epages/de867ca1-377e-432e-84fd-bdccf2206766.sf/en_GB/?ObjectID=2171163
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 997.2 is with the dealer at the moment for some warranty work, one item of which is a sagging engine mount. They are just changing the one for what its worth. I did question that they were only doing the one but they considered it ok.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PHS wrote:
The Rennline's on mine were installed just last week, and yep they are a bit pricey. Think it was £340 inc discount.

As said, noticeable NVH which is like a constant thrum which you can feel in the driver seat, but trade-off for me was the massive improvement in the gearshift


give them a couple of thousand miles they do settle and bed in which does improve the NVH a lot Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When someone has fitted or if someone has already fitted the 993RS mounts or the aftermarket versions can they do a review especially someone who can compare to semi solids and stock . thanks Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uk996 wrote:
think I've found them.

http://type911shop.co.uk/epages/de867ca1-377e-432e-84fd-bdccf2206766.sf/en_GB/?ObjectID=2171163


that's them. but you need the fitting kit and the washers too

good thread here: http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=124899&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=engine+mounts&start=20

attached is the picture of my basket from design 911 with all the bits you need.

you also need these washers from ebay too and cheaper to buy there as x5 than from porsche or design 911:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M12-x-45mm-x-5mm-THICK-HEAVY-DUTY-Steel-Washers-BZP-Bright-Zinc-CHOOSE-A-QTY/300891307854?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=600103131706&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

here are the parts Required:
12.) 964.375.043.80 Engine Mounts (qty 2)
13.) 901.305.311.00 Seat (qty 4)
14.) 900.082.030.02 Bolt (qty 2)
15.) 999.025.074.02 Washer (qty 4)
16.) 999.025.134.02 Washer (qty 4)
Optional:
9.) 900.074.134.02 Bolt (qty 4)
10.) 999.084.215.09 Locking Nut (qty 2)

if you have an email then send me a pm and I can send you the word doc with all the parts and fittings.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is the list as priced up on Type 911

£165 delivered. result.

if you remove line item 4 and then order through ebay then you will save yourself another £25 so £140 all in for 993 RS mounts

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good post Nick, I will save that ,but do you mean cancel item 4 not 5 and get of ebay Thumb
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