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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:05 pm    Post subject: Project Blue Book Reply with quote

Coming to a thread near you soon....PROJECT BLUE BOOK....
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what it is Dance Tap

One thing is sure, it`s going to be interesting Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So at last we can start this new chapter of vehicluar restoration.
Just to fill you in on the reasoning behind this new purchase which I have called Project Blue Book.....Back in the mists of time at the tender age of nineteen my dear departed dad said it was about time I changed my car (MK1 Golf in Lemon Yellow). He would give me some money towards my next car. Well, he showed me a advert in Porsche post for a 914. He was really keen for me to get on the Porsche ladder. Well, under pressure from my mates that a two seater car would be of no use to them I brought a XR2 Mk2, brand new mind! (D*ck Head!). Well every year without fail my dear old pop would buy me a model in 1/43rd scale of a 914, and I mean every year!!!! I always new I'd have to right this wrong......so hold onto your hats everyone, this is gonna get expensive Rolling Eyes
So after much research and a number of books purchased I found what most would consider the 'One to have'.
This is a 1973 (1974 model year) 2.0Ltr in Alaska Blue. It has the much coverted centre console with the three stack guages.





So it's two owners from new with 69K on the clock. Totally unmolested, it even has the original Co-Co floor mats too! I drove it back some hour and half from home. All I can say at this point is that it runs. The initial drive off is frought with coughs, splutters and the occassional back fire Grin Once your on the move it's fine and gets a real taz on! The long suffering Mrs Chief was following in her Abarth 500 and was amazed how quick it went (motorway plus twenty) Surprised Well you've got to be sure it goes....I can't believe this is 42 years old. The paints totally had it, but next to no rust at all!

So the plan is to get it running right before I start the rebuild. So this afternoon I started attacking the top of the engine. Cleaning up earths and making a list of stuff needed to get it running for now. I'm sure that the plans for the car will evolve, so I won't go into much detail for a while.
Suffice it to say it will be Hotrodded Thumb
And what with the title, well nobody knows what it is...could be close encounter of the third kind Radar
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a cool project!
Looking forward to this one.... Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who you gonna call..........Edd China!

He fixed one of these within an hour Grin



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ian,
I have recorded Edd and watched it twice Rolling Eyes
If only I had a lift to just wiz the car up and down Question

If anyone sees me painting the car with a rattle can....SHOOT ME RedCard
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ben, if it's anything like The Red Baron it should be a riot Grin
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks a great project!..I was looking for a 914 a while back but I couldn't find a car that ran properly on injection and was reasonably priced.

Keep the pictures coming. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats, will be an interested read Thumb

always wondered about those 914's Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks fellas for the good vibes.
I think these cars are coming onto the radar now.
1974 mid engined, had disc brakes all round, five speed box and fuel injection!
Also with the likelihood of both Boxter and Cayman going to 4 pot these little Jems will be right on trend Grin
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So by way of a little update.....
I have been stripping the fuel system and replacing the old hard and split fuel lines. The car as I mentioned was running poorly at low revs, with spluttering, coughing and backfiring nooo So I ordered new 7mm fuel pipe and clips and today i've taken all the fuel injectors and rails out to refresh them. The first thing that might not be helping is this!


Not going to get much fuel through there me thinks Rolling Eyes

The injectors and seals were looking sorry for themselves...

Whilst the injectors were soaking in the bath, I removed the manifolds, cleaned the bakerlite face plates and put some instant gasket on both sides and re-assembled. Change all the fuel pipes and clips, then back to installing the injector rails.

Please bear in mind, i'm just trying to get the car running properly to use this summer. I will strip clean and get everything re-plated when I jump into the resto mod winter time....
So turned the key and it burst into life Thumb
The injection system is so simple, but if everthing isn't perfect it just doesn't run. Air leaks seem to cause the most trouble. But it's kinda fun playing with this ground breaking stuff. I took a few pics of all the cars together so you can see the linieage.




So, early bath tonight as it's so sunny, thought i'd put my feet up!
All the best,
Chief
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A mighty fine collection Chief, I was down at Knockhill this morning at an OPC trackday every year of GT3 pounding round all of which were scarely quick
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2015 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groovy baby , you will need to grow a Jason King mustache.. Hotrodded sounds good , i like its looks , i think the wheels are spot on for the Red Barron they look like the sticker you have on your wing.
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When all else fails there's Condor and WD40 Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We went to see Chiefs 914 yesterday.

Looks nice and low and sounds a lot of fun around the corners.

A lot of work to get it the the standard set by the Red Baron, but the car is 42 years old and in remarkably good condition for that.

I suspect the garage will be the most used room in the house for the next [12*] months!

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* feel free to insert your own number!

A while ago there was a Porsce Post with a lot about 914s. I chucked most of mine when we moved. Anyone still got it?

PS, I agree with Keith about the wheels. Stick them on the Baron to get some continuity with your fleet.
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keith, never thought of myself as a Jason King look a like....you remember I have no hair right?
I totally agree that these cars are cool. Chasing Pete round a few islands yesterday got the tyres squeeling with such a smooth progressive tail out oversteer Very Happy They handle great, and as Pete says, this one is 42 years old..... Thumb Still trying to muddle through the fuel injection issues, but it does run better already. So many plans for this one......can't wait to get my teeth into it food food
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O.K still trying to get to the bottom of the poor running...
Now i'm no expert with this type of early fuel injection, but I have to say I am really enjoying learning and fathoming out how it ticks. As previously explained, i'm going through each component and stripping and cleaning to see if I can have a 'Eureka' moment. This even now has not happend, but I keep finding lots of little faults which you think must be it, but alas no beer!
So this weekend I have stripped the throttle body.


So behind this little black box is the stuff that can play up! I buzzed throught the contacts and found one on the idle side of the track not working.

Cleaning with a good contact cleaner and some carefull use of 2000 wet and dry sorted that out.

You have to be very careful and use a delecate hand with this stuff.
Still amazing that this is 42 years old!!
So now we have everything working and a nice '0' resistence
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So I re-asembled it all back up and fired her up.....Still the bl@@dy same bonk
Well one down and all that...........
The next thing on the list was to replace the thermostat cable. This cleaver little bellows expands when it reaches 90c and shut/opens (Not sure which way around it works) two flaps that are shut when cold to allow the engine to warm up quickly.

With this snapped the engine can overheat. Theading the new cable up through the tinware and around a pully was fun. I have to get Mrs Chief to help out.
So with this one ticked off the ever growing list I moved on to the distributor. Getting this little bu@@er out was fun. I honestly cannot remember the last time I got involved with stripping one. It must be 25 years ago easy!

So someone has put electronic ignition in and replaced the points. But the interesting thing is in the bottom of the distributor is another set of points that trigger the fuel injectors. Very simple but effective. The unit just pulls out.


I gave these a good clean and removed the old grease which was more like wax after all this time. The points base rotates against it's self to allow vacuum advance. The plate was tight so I spent some time cleaning and re-greasing. Also the little earth wire had come adrift.

On assembling everything back together I realised that the electronic ignition trigger was tight and slowing the vacuum advance. So I filed it's base plate to free it up. Now I thought all these little things must add up to something. Well put it all back together, but not having a timing light anymore (Like who has nowadayz) I put everything back to some whitness marks I had put on at the start. I figured i'd get it running and time it by ear for now. Well turned the key and it won't even run now Grin i'm getting good at this mechanic stuff don't you think?
Anyway, I thought i'll leave it for now and go and see PeterS for a coffee and catch up. I'll look at it with fresh eyes next week sometime......no rush, still lot's to do to The Red Baron Rolling Eyes
Well no further forward, infact further back than before. Until next time.
Peace out from PROJECT BLUE BOOK.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sterling work mate you are an inspiration Floor





sure you will crack it Very Happy
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