Ant-toe-knee
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Have the same potential engine problems as first gen?
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Ant-toe-knee said:Is there any online brochure for the Gen ?
mcwullie said:What date did the Gen 2's come out??
spongebob squarepants said:There's more power making a gen 2 carerra as powerful as a gen1 S
spongebob squarepants said:The interior is updated is more stylish with better quality materials
spongebob squarepants said:Led lights are standard
spongebob squarepants said:Litronic headlights
spongebob squarepants said:Improved PASM
spongebob squarepants said:
plavix said:Ant-toe-knee said:Is there any online brochure for the Gen ?
Gen 2 Tequipment Brochure: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5c4r8cgmv1dsbpm/Porsche (Tequipment 911).pdf
mcwullie said:What date did the Gen 2's come out??
Q3 2008.
spongebob squarepants said:There's more power making a gen 2 carerra as powerful as a gen1 S
It weighs more too. And that's excludes the driver. :hand:
997.1 C2S, 4.9s to 100kph.
997.2 C2, 4.8s to 100kph.
Yippee, it's 2% faster! Which excludes the additional 35kg or PDK.
spongebob squarepants said:The interior is updated is more stylish with better quality materials
All the interior part numbers are the same. Perhaps they came from better cows for the 997.2. Granted PCM3 is a significant improvement.
spongebob squarepants said:Led lights are standard
DRLs are for Christmas trees IMHO.
spongebob squarepants said:Litronic headlights
Which are strangely identical to the 997.1 Litronic, where they are standard on the S and optional on the non-S.
spongebob squarepants said:Improved PASM
Really? How? Most are the same part numbers again.
spongebob squarepants said:
Perfect for the older and less able generation I find. Specifically those who want a VW Golf experience wrapped in a Porsche branded shell. :frustrated:
spongebob squarepants said:Plavix you have a downer on gen 2 cars!
spongebob squarepants said:Interior
The PCM3 is as you mention a big improvement however also noticeable is a difference in quality of materials particularly the leather for the seats which is much improved, compare the 2 there is a difference, and the dash around the PCM is also much improved and less cluttered (Hence some upgrade to gen 2 spec interiors)
spongebob squarepants said:Power and engine
Again it is well documented the DFi engine performs differently to the old engine, it performs from lower in the rev range,
spongebob squarepants said:and the 0-62 on the standard Carerra PDK is actually very close in real time to 4 seconds with sport plus (Which is quick enough for me)
spongebob squarepants said:Unless I'm missing something a PDK gen 2 is quicker than a manual 997.1 as the driver is the weak link.
spongebob squarepants said:Most manual fans diss the PDK, however it's not an auto,
spongebob squarepants said:it just loses the pointless hard to operate pedal on the left side A PDK is genuinely a joy to drive, but the die hard manual fan will always disagree, Porsche agree however, the manuals days are numbered for good reason.
spongebob squarepants said:As mentioned the engine addresses all the previous reliability issues with some style,
spongebob squarepants said:the only downside is it doesn't sound as nice making PSE an essential option.
spongebob squarepants said:the LED's I think improve the car dramatically.
spongebob squarepants said:There is a clear and substantial price difference between gen 1 and 2 cars, mainly due to that superb new engine, however there are other subtle differences.
spongebob squarepants said:A gen 2 is more reliable than a VW golf, and there are more improvements than just the direct Injection engine :thumbs:
There's more power making a gen 2 carerra as powerful as a gen1 S
The interior is updated is more stylish with better quality materials
Led lights are standard
Litronic headlights
Newly designed rear lights
Improved PASM
PDK
Etc etc
Overall it's more a new model than a facelift and it won't go bang. Prices are much steeper for good reason.