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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tim993 wrote:
Can anyone tell me which carrier is being used?


Parcelforce.

The decision was taken to use a quality courier.

Packages are still being shipped out, after every shipment, the tracking number is posted.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tim993 wrote:
Can anyone tell me which carrier is being used?

We have very mixed experiences with them round here, from those who will comfortably leave parcels in the porch or at a neighbouring property to those who will only hand over with a signature, but can only tell you the delivery is between 9 and 5. Absolutely crap for anyone whose life takes them beyond their front door each day... (Yodel = Evil or Very Mad grrrr)

tim


Tim I had that problem, I was out when the parcel arrived, but he left a card which I could not read. Made a phone call and found that my parcel was left at a local post office 15 minutes away. I had visions of it being taken back to the main office in Chelmsford or even further. Perhaps I was lucky and it does vary. Another Post code lottery perhaps.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second batch of manuals arrived yesterday, unfortunately too late to post.

Posted today so will arrive Monday:

Madasasnake - posted today tracking number KG4559767
mohitos - posted today tracking number KG4559775
Tim993 - posted today tracking number KG4559784
Kat1 - posted today tracking number KG4559798
Armes - posted today tracking number KG4559807
LSDFJ00 - posted today tracking number KG4559815

The courier is Parcelforce........
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

orangecurry wrote:
Yep I spotted it there just after it was posted Thumb

As I said above, the revised page is almost as bad!


Orangecurry, I brought your posts and this thread as a whole to the attention of the lead editor on the 993 project. Here's what he had to say:

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"Here is the link to the new tech wiki page:

Revised Engine Oil Level, Checking procedure from repair manual page 03-17 (P998) https://wiki.bentleypublishers.com/x/1gBWBw

Thanks for your input. Feel that we have some egg on our face for messing up such a basic task. In haste, it was taken directly from our 996 manual. Not a good excuse and it did get by us.

Please take a look at the updated wiki page and let me know if there is anything else you would like added (or removed).

Thanks again! Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

-Charlie Burke"


Hope this helps and yes, it's absolutely true that we appreciate the feedback. In fact, please pass along any comments on the manual, good or bad. If there's something that we need to get into the next printing, this is a terrific time to get them in.

And for those of you that have already picked up the book, either through the group buy or elsewhere, tremendous thanks. Feel free to review the book on Amazon, we really appreciate that too!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the confirmation Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maurice wrote:

Orangecurry, I brought your posts and this thread as a whole to the attention of the lead editor on the 993 project. Here's what he had to say:

Quote:
"Here is the link to the new tech wiki page:

Revised Engine Oil Level, Checking procedure from repair manual page 03-17 (P998) https://wiki.bentleypublishers.com/x/1gBWBw

Thanks for your input. Feel that we have some egg on our face for messing up such a basic task. In haste, it was taken directly from our 996 manual. Not a good excuse and it did get by us.

Please take a look at the updated wiki page and let me know if there is anything else you would like added (or removed).

Thanks again! Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

-Charlie Burke"


Hope this helps and yes, it's absolutely true that we appreciate the feedback. In fact, please pass along any comments on the manual, good or bad. If there's something that we need to get into the next printing, this is a terrific time to get them in.


Hi Maurice

thanks for passing on my points - it's great to see a positive response to my critique Very Happy

It's the only page I've seen of course. Very Happy

I may be misunderstanding the revised text, but the temp gauge should be into the central 'third' of the range to be sure that the thermostat is open and so all of the oil is circulating, and not the 'upper third' as the revised page currently says.

See my crude photo below.

The thermostat opens at roughly (car dependent) 8o'clock or the end of the first third/beginning of central third, and if you are watching the oil-temp you will see it drop suddenly by 1 or 2 mm (as the colder oil enters into circulation) and then the temp climbs back up into the 'central' third.

To be picky you should also suggest waiting 30 seconds after the car has stopped moving and left to idle before taking a reading via oil-level gauge or dipstick.

 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very precisely put OC Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lead editor wrote:
In haste, it was taken directly from our 996 manual....

WTF eh!

lead editor wrote:
Please take a look at the updated wiki page and let me know if there is anything else you would like added (or removed).

WTF (part 2) eh! eh!

This is unbelievable, real own goal stuff. You are supposed to be the experts - we are the enthusiasts who rely on you and your knowledge.

I'll stick with Streather, the service manual and the parts catalogue I think.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can't win. If they ignore the input they are arrogant. If they take on the useful feedback and ask for more they get it in the neck as well.
I think their approach of embracing the input from the enthusiasts is to be commended.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can win...

1) Disable cut and paste from one manual to another;
2) Apply proper editorial control;
3) Beta test by consulting selected enthusiasts/other experts before asking the final customers to pay, not afterwards.

I know that my comments are harsh. But really, this is not acceptable for a technical publication.

Must do better....
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it that the publisher takes the comments on board, and that's what they should be, helpful comments which are as stated accepted with grace. With so many pages how can teething problems not be an issue. The books not exactly a catastrophic failure is it chaps Question
I'm currently studying the the front suspension, I'm no expert (and it's why I bought the book) however it is making sense.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Collected mine from the Post Office yesterday having missed the delivery earlier in the week.

I haven't had an opportunity to look at it yet but just wanted to express my thanks to those involved in organising the group buy.

And thank you Colin for the speedy distribution. Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinC wrote:
How about a discount for a group buy......

I've picked mine up now - thanks for arranging the group buy Colin Thumb
I also got a nice 911uk.com sticker with it, but b*****ed it up sticking it on wack
Can I have another one, please, please?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No probs will stick another couple in the post........
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mohitos wrote:
*****, now available much more cheaply from Amazon UK directly I notice Sad

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Porsche-Carrera-Type-Service-Manual/dp/0837617197/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1385992517&sr=8-1&keywords=993+service


You bought well young Jedi 993 owners Star Wars

The books now at £134.00 from Darth Amazon.

(Still can't believe the revised oil check page though, have they revised the revised one yet?) wack
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you also for arranging the group buy Thumb

I'm embarrassed to admit that I haven't had a chance to peruse its pages yet...
 
  
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