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chimp911
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be checking the boot to see if they tried to remount the engine there! Bandit
 
  
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rottenbend
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

£18/hour for labour!
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Red993C4
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterS wrote:
It looks like the garage has covered themselves as well.

He quite clearly says that within 4 weeks someone needs to check that he has used the right nuts and bolts!


I would have interpreted that to mean that torques of nuts and bolts should be rechecked within four weeks, i.e., after the engine has been run hot a few times.
 
  
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MisterCorn
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red993C4 wrote:
PeterS wrote:
It looks like the garage has covered themselves as well.

He quite clearly says that within 4 weeks someone needs to check that he has used the right nuts and bolts!


I would have interpreted that to mean that torques of nuts and bolts should be rechecked within four weeks, i.e., after the engine has been run hot a few times.


That would have been my interpretation, but judging by what has been found I think Pete might be right.

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ras62
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no VAT on that so called Invoice. I cant imagine any half decent Garage not being VAT registered, even the cheque is made payable to a person not the business. All very peculiar.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ras62 wrote:
There is no VAT on that so called Invoice. I cant imagine any half decent Garage not being VAT registered, even the cheque is made payable to a person not the business. All very peculiar.


The labour rate suggests a hobby mechanic (under VAT threshold) and goes some way to explain the bodge-up - inexperience.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete, PM sent. Thumb
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PeterS
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, a brief update.

The bill for the bits is over £8000.

I desperately wanted this finished so I could use it for the Isle Of Skye trip at the end of the month. It could just about be done, so long as there were no further mishaps, for example if the old crankcase studs break.

So I am now on plan B.

I have to accept that if I am spending the best part of £12K then there is no point rushing it, just so I can enjoy a weekend blat. I will have to use the 996.

There is a site called RosePassion in France that has parts a bit cheaper (looks like about 20% less than what my Indy was going to have to pay, so I am at present pricing it all up from there.

This will slow things down so it will now become a winter project, and will make sure everything is spot-on.

I'm gutted, but in the long term it will be the right decision.
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Dream911
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterS wrote:
OK, a brief update.

I have to accept that if I am spending the best part of £12K then there is no point rushing it, just so I can enjoy a weekend blat.



Also dont forget that the car will need to be run in for a good c700 ish miles and then its advisable to take back to get everything re-torqued.

The run in miles are perhaps the most boring you will ever do.

Definately the right decision to take your time. Thumb
 
  
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chimp911
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps not the outcome you were hoping for but at least you can relax and enjoy the roads and scenery in Skye (subject to weather) rather than constantly checking your rear view for lost bits of your engine...
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe consider getting the engine run in professionally

I had mine done by BS Motorsport in feb/march time.

http://www.bsmotorsport.co.uk/index.asp

For me after spending all that money, I wanted to be confident that my car was properly run in and set up right.
 
  
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PeterS
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GURU2000 wrote:
Maybe consider getting the engine run in professionally

I had mine done by BS Motorsport in feb/march time.

http://www.bsmotorsport.co.uk/index.asp

For me after spending all that money, I wanted to be confident that my car was properly run in and set up right.


Without doubt this is one thing that I will not be having done.

Thanks for the suggestion though.
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infrasilver
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterS wrote:
GURU2000 wrote:
Maybe consider getting the engine run in professionally

I had mine done by BS Motorsport in feb/march time.

http://www.bsmotorsport.co.uk/index.asp

For me after spending all that money, I wanted to be confident that my car was properly run in and set up right.


Without doubt this is one thing that I will not be having done.

Thanks for the suggestion though.


I'd never even heard of anyone else running an engine in for you. Can you imagine Kwik Fit offering this service, the engine would be ragged daily buy some 18 year old. BS Motorsport also sound like a name I would use if I was racing cars.
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Dream911
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

infrasilver wrote:
PeterS wrote:
GURU2000 wrote:
Maybe consider getting the engine run in professionally

I had mine done by BS Motorsport in feb/march time.

http://www.bsmotorsport.co.uk/index.asp

For me after spending all that money, I wanted to be confident that my car was properly run in and set up right.


Without doubt this is one thing that I will not be having done.

Thanks for the suggestion though.



I'd never even heard of anyone else running an engine in for you. Can you imagine Kwik Fit offering this service, the engine would be ragged daily buy some 18 year old. BS Motorsport also sound like a name I would use if I was racing cars.



The professionally run in engines are done on the dyno before they are fitted into the car are they not?
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see the merit on a racing engine. But in your position I'd want to see every mile myself and not commit to spending more money. I guess it's safe to say that this one is a 'keeper' Pete?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes this one's a keeper.

However please make the distinction between me and you.

You are a hoarder! There is a differance!

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter,

Just seen this thread. What happened since iirc it had good compression despite oil leaks?

Ken
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly dream 911.

The professionally run in engines are done on the dyno before they are fitted into the car.

It’s done over a 10 or 12 hour period going through the rev range and professionally mapped.

It's a luxury not a necessity!
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

996ttalot wrote:
Peter,

Just seen this thread. What happened since iirc it had good compression despite oil leaks?

Ken


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TheCock
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Pete, blimey, what a story.......lucky we didnt have to give you a lift back from Le Mans!!!

Wow....some project mate, I can't believe the price of the re-build, best part of £12k is another 964! Mind you it sounds like it'll be an absolute weapon when finished. Best of luck with it all.
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