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Massive mechanical failure. Not a good day...
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MisterCorn
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Rimmer said:
6k at hartech will get a full engine rebuild, i think i know the warrenty you were sold with the car as I am also getting the same one tomorrow when I get mine, its a gold 12 month and has a max of 5k per claim with a no number of claim limits.
This would help towards a rebuild at hartech, plus no1 knows engines better than them.
This would help towards a rebuild at hartech, plus no1 knows engines better than them.
Sub997 said:
If that's what it needs/costs then maybe £1k on the chin is the way to go.
Maybe the garage should/could cough-up the £1k to get you off their case/back and supply you with a car until your 997 is returned?
Moreover they are both(warranty co + dealer) probably VAT registered and can easily claim the VAT back.
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blown engines
Wizzard,
I don't understand, help me out here. A Porsche Independent dealer sells somebody a warranty knowing without a doubt that there is a chance that the engine may let go, not even explaining what that chance is. What is it with the warranty, is it the one that gives the dealers the biggest payback. Is the cost being so cheap as to be palatable even with the risk. Last year I talked with an AA man who rescued my mates flat battery and we got talking about cars, even he knew about the Porsche engines letting go. He then gobbed on about the honda Vtec engine where there is not one engine blown yet followed by Toyota and Nissan engine reliability.
I have yet to see somebody define these small numbers, how does somebody quantify small numbers. If they are only a small number why will Porsche not come clean on the numbers they know? I keep reading out here of people saying "Only a small number" how do they know?
Does anybody know what is being hidden besides dealers trying to keep a lid on it for their own interests & benefits.
I'm not taking a dig I just can't see why somebodys dream should go up in smoke with no support. It's a tragedy.
Wizzard,
I don't understand, help me out here. A Porsche Independent dealer sells somebody a warranty knowing without a doubt that there is a chance that the engine may let go, not even explaining what that chance is. What is it with the warranty, is it the one that gives the dealers the biggest payback. Is the cost being so cheap as to be palatable even with the risk. Last year I talked with an AA man who rescued my mates flat battery and we got talking about cars, even he knew about the Porsche engines letting go. He then gobbed on about the honda Vtec engine where there is not one engine blown yet followed by Toyota and Nissan engine reliability.
I have yet to see somebody define these small numbers, how does somebody quantify small numbers. If they are only a small number why will Porsche not come clean on the numbers they know? I keep reading out here of people saying "Only a small number" how do they know?
Does anybody know what is being hidden besides dealers trying to keep a lid on it for their own interests & benefits.
I'm not taking a dig I just can't see why somebodys dream should go up in smoke with no support. It's a tragedy.
Re: blown engines
Hi Ocean Blue
I don't think the number of failures is small at all...
Hartech rebuilds over 100 watercooled engines per year and he is only one of a number of independents that rebuild Porsche water-cooled units....
How many people just go for a replacement engine?...
How many stay within the official Porsche network for the solution...
How many of the older, less valuable high mileage cars are just scrapped?
This doesn't bode well for Porsche's reputation as a high end sports car builder in the future. :nooo:
Ocean Blue said:
Hi Ocean Blue
I don't think the number of failures is small at all...
Hartech rebuilds over 100 watercooled engines per year and he is only one of a number of independents that rebuild Porsche water-cooled units....
How many people just go for a replacement engine?...
How many stay within the official Porsche network for the solution...
How many of the older, less valuable high mileage cars are just scrapped?
This doesn't bode well for Porsche's reputation as a high end sports car builder in the future. :nooo:
Re: blown engines
As they built more 997's than the previous models the % that fail will probably be about the same vs the 996's and boxsters. Unfortunately due to sheer qty, this means more in terms of actual unit failures, so we hear more about it.
Maybe it should be termed a small % rather than actual numbers but it's clear that a worrying qty of early 997's are showing up as problematic...either complete failure of requiring lots of engine work.
Ocean Blue said:
As they built more 997's than the previous models the % that fail will probably be about the same vs the 996's and boxsters. Unfortunately due to sheer qty, this means more in terms of actual unit failures, so we hear more about it.
Maybe it should be termed a small % rather than actual numbers but it's clear that a worrying qty of early 997's are showing up as problematic...either complete failure of requiring lots of engine work.
T8
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Re: blown engines
BUT
Different people define 'small' differently and many don't relate to numbers when they hear of percentages.
EG.
If 500 997 engines were reported as having failed prematurely there'd be an uproar as it wouldn't be considered a small amount.
If 100,000 (non GT and non Turbo) 997s were produced and 0.5% were reported to have failed many people would say 'that's not bad'.
Fact is ......... 0.5% of 100,000 .............is 500 :cop:
wizard993 said:
BUT
Different people define 'small' differently and many don't relate to numbers when they hear of percentages.
EG.
If 500 997 engines were reported as having failed prematurely there'd be an uproar as it wouldn't be considered a small amount.
If 100,000 (non GT and non Turbo) 997s were produced and 0.5% were reported to have failed many people would say 'that's not bad'.
Fact is ......... 0.5% of 100,000 .............is 500 :cop:
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