Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 5210 Location: Oxfordshire
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:10 pm Post subject:
911UK wrote:
917k wrote:
porkyb1 wrote:
Advert has added text re damage/repairs and new price
"The car did sustain damage on track in 2016. This was to the rear left quarter and front bumper. Both bumpers were replaced with new items, the rear left wing was repaired, as was the rear left suspension, and the alignment checked. We are confident that the car has been properly repaired, and it is HPI clear. We are happy for it to be independently inspected if you have any concerns. Because of this history, we are pricing the Porsche lower than other similar 996 GT3 Clubsports."
£56,995
I think it will sell no problem at that price, and at last someone has been honest about the damage
So another rogue dealer had been trying to flog it for £10k more than it's worth knowing it's history for enough time on all the main car sites and because he couldn't due to what was evidenced here, he's had to reduce the value to get rid of it :wack hardly a vindication for the dealer
Finally the car is almost at the right price of £55k
No, more of a pants down moment. 55 is too much btw
Marky911 Magny-Cours
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 Posts: 2659
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:19 pm Post subject:
Senoj wrote:
FZP wrote:
Senoj wrote:
FZP wrote:
I think an offer mid 40s is a fair and reasonable offer for a car, that although doesn't have and CAT registered against it, has and will suffer the stigma of a CAT car by reputation.
Doesn’t have a CAT yet, could still happen.
At least this thread has saved someone about £8k, so far
Just when I think I'm getting a handle on the way things work in this country, pow, I get thrown a curveball.
Ins co are the ones who inform DVLA, how would you know it’s not in a pile of docs sitting on someone’s desk waiting to get posted?
And. There’s a link earlier to to a story about the gap in the relevant databases, records that DVLA hold vs records that so called “vehicle check” companies hold are not aligned. Maybe those gaps will remain, maybe they won’t.
Did the insurance write it off and pay out??
If so then I can’t understand how it wasn’t recorded.
If not then it won’t go on the list, because it’s the insurers who put it there.
At a smidge less than it is now I may take a punt. Subject to a proper bumpers off inspection.
Can I get over it’s notoriety though.
Edited to add.
Ok just read the start of thread again and insurance paid out.
I’d bet there’s a Cat classification waiting in the wings somewhere.
Why do I think that?
My mate Andy bought a 964T in late 2004 or early 2005.
No underbonnet sticker but front tub 100% original and Hpi clear.
I bought it off him in 2008 and sold it in 2012 still Hpi clear.
It went up for sale last year with JZM then RPM and when someone HPI’d it it was Cat D.
Aviva had added it to the register for a minor bump back in 2004. So 14 years earlier!
Obviously the guy I sold it to got in touch and I felt pretty bad, even though me and my mate who owned it prior, knew nothing about it.
Back when we owned it it was £18k not the £100k RPM were asking.
With that in mind I wouldn’t buy the GT3 unless I would be just as happy to buy it if it were cat C/D, as these things sometimes catch up with a car.
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jonttt Long Beach
Joined: 20 Aug 2012 Posts: 6443 Location: Liverpool
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:30 pm Post subject:
911UK wrote:
917k wrote:
porkyb1 wrote:
Advert has added text re damage/repairs and new price
"The car did sustain damage on track in 2016. This was to the rear left quarter and front bumper. Both bumpers were replaced with new items, the rear left wing was repaired, as was the rear left suspension, and the alignment checked. We are confident that the car has been properly repaired, and it is HPI clear. We are happy for it to be independently inspected if you have any concerns. Because of this history, we are pricing the Porsche lower than other similar 996 GT3 Clubsports."
£56,995
I think it will sell no problem at that price, and at last someone has been honest about the damage
So another rogue dealer had been trying to flog it for £10k more than it's worth knowing it's history for enough time on all the main car sites and because he couldn't due to what was evidenced here, he's had to reduce the value to get rid of it :wack hardly a vindication for the dealer
Finally the car is almost at the right price of £55k
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Gottans Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 25 Mar 2016 Posts: 251
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:09 pm Post subject:
FRP wrote:
‘‘Twas my email to them I reckon.
I reported the ad to autotrader pointing out the car was being misrepresented as it had been sold as salvage by Copart due to it being an insurance write-off (uneconomic repair). This also showed their history check info was wrong especially as anyone can easily prove their check was wrong.
A joint effort..
Jay. Montreal
Joined: 20 Oct 2015 Posts: 582 Location: Brize Norton
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:02 am Post subject:
It's pretty tempting at this price - shame about the sordid history but it looks to finally be an honest listing at a decent price _________________ 2004 996 Turbo
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NLW73 Albert Park
Joined: 27 May 2014 Posts: 1554 Location: Yateley
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:33 pm Post subject:
good to see the price has been addressed AND this dealer has finally put details on the damage out there.
case of do the right thing and to probably avoid a future court case too once a new owner found out quickly....
cheeky bid and into a cheapish club sport _________________ 997 C2s Schwarz
917k Magny-Cours
Joined: 02 Jun 2003 Posts: 2558 Location: Bromley, kent
So either sold or returned to the owner? _________________ We come unseen
Ffmygale Newbie
Joined: 13 Nov 2013 Posts: 6
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:25 pm Post subject:
Bit of a late reply but I've just spotted this thread!
I looked at this car and the paintwork hadn't been done well (it had been blown in along either door shut and unfortunately you could see the join very easily). Also, there were a few bits missing from underneath the bumper (and this was just what I could tell from it being on the ground, I didn't have access to a ramp). Hence it was clear that it had been repaired relatively cheaply! Despite this though I was interested in buying it, but the owner decided not to sell it and withdrew it from the dealer. Subsequently I heard that the seller withdrew it from the dealer to sell it privately, so it's still out there somewhere!
NLW73 Albert Park
Joined: 27 May 2014 Posts: 1554 Location: Yateley
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:32 am Post subject:
Did you get the chassis number by any chance? Even the last 6 numbers would help as easy change a reg plate
Not many Guards Ref club sport 996.2 cars out there tbh so it should be easy to spot and check up on.
It’s on this forum and PH and buyers of this would be in the know and check I would imagine
Market has dropped quite a bit of late so the owner has no chance of trying to get the mid to late 60s they wanted
This is a 50k car now.
Very poor form on the paint work and missing plastics. Those are not cheap parts on a gt3 so would suggest a cheap repair has been done and corners cut. _________________ 997 C2s Schwarz
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LaSource Nürburgring
Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 472
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:36 am Post subject:
This car has a new, aware and very happy owner.
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Diggermeister Nürburgring
Joined: 26 May 2015 Posts: 469
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:41 am Post subject:
Good news. Hopefully to be seen once more on track days too?
jonttt Long Beach
Joined: 20 Aug 2012 Posts: 6443 Location: Liverpool
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:11 pm Post subject:
great news, at least it was sold honestly, the main issue was not the car but the way it was being sold _________________ 1997 Porsche 911 993 C4S My Journal
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Pip1968 Suzuka
Joined: 26 Oct 2009 Posts: 1186 Location: Blighty
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:36 pm Post subject:
LaSource wrote:
This car has a new, aware and very happy owner.
Everyone can stand down.
So after all the speculation any idea on the fair price for such a beast
Congratulations to whoever he was.
Pip
Ps you were robbed
Ffmygale Newbie
Joined: 13 Nov 2013 Posts: 6
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:48 am Post subject:
LaSource wrote:
This car has a new, aware and very happy owner.
Everyone can stand down.
You did well, As I said, I'd have been very happy to own it. Well done for extracting it from the seller!
Porsche News Motoring Editor
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 7139
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:04 am Post subject:
Ffmygale wrote:
LaSource wrote:
This car has a new, aware and very happy owner.
Everyone can stand down.
You did well, As I said, I'd have been very happy to own it. Well done for extracting it from the seller!
LaSource was the owner who crashed it on track (Nurburgring) in the 1st place _________________ >Competitive Porsche Insurance <
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Teffers Monza
Joined: 28 Dec 2009 Posts: 151 Location: West Mids
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:40 pm Post subject:
See the kink in the O/S ?
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Marky911 Magny-Cours
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 Posts: 2659
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:42 pm Post subject:
Ouch!
I’d delete your post and give it its own thread though, stating the Reg number in the title.
It’s not relevant to the car in this thread. Great heads up for buyers though.
mierzwin Newbie
Joined: 25 Sep 2019 Posts: 7
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:58 pm Post subject:
I will actually do it. Problem is I have few more 911s and not sure if I should make a post about each?
Marky911 Magny-Cours
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 Posts: 2659
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:32 pm Post subject:
Ha, ah ok.
There’s a general crashed GT3 thread on P’heads. Suppose we should have one on here.
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