Unrecorded GR 996 GT3 via Copart; LX53NRN Updated!

LaSource said:

A lot of obsession with this car.

Pictures look worse than the actual car/damage but make a more sensationalist story.

The PU units were removed for inspection as were the lights. In the above pics the wheels of course are also removed.

Actual damage was just left front wing (superficial) and left rear. Zero damage at dead on front, back, sides, or any other panel. The right rear corner (exposed in the pics) and exhaust bits and valance area are completely untouched / undamaged but with the panels off deceptively look like part of the damage. The bonnet is not shut properly in the pics and was undamaged.

Yes it will be a repaired car but the actual impact was probably not the worst out there (sideways impact and not head on).

I'm not connected to the repair or sale of the car - but was in it when it happened

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FZP said:

rigsby99 said:

FZP said:

This is quite an emotive topic that could be resolved simply by the dealer representing the car correctly. Disclosing that it has had an issue, obtaining pics of the damage, Bill if materials and invoice of repairing shop as part of the sales documentation and pricing the car correctly, rather than trying to flog it off as pristine is dishonest

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The car is not being dishonestly presented. There is a difference between false advertising and omission, try asking the seller if the car has history then judge them. As for bills and pics if the damage was superficial then they probably don't exist. I would suggest that a lot of cars of this type have had a few repairs in their time the difference here is that the accident was witnessed and consequently we have a witch hunt. Take the bumpers and wing off and if you have a sound undamaged shell what is the problem, if it was significantly damaged then it would be recorded as such.

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I'll put it to you another way, if purchased a house in which you later found out had been the house in which 5 members of one family had been murders by their son, was no disclosed to you, would you accept it as an omission by the real estate agent, or misrepresented.
Now you may find that an extreme example, but it's a true story and aligns with the above car. It changed real estate laws and closed the loop hole that this car has slipped through.

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911UK said:

you have 2 issue, the actual value of the car with it's accident history, which is not what traders have had it up for

and certain dishonest traders trying to pass the car off as genuine knowing it's been in a crash but using the loophole that it's not 'officially' recorded, to sell it on

if it wasn't for the information on this site, this car would have been sold on many times already to unsuspecting buyers

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Cunno said:

I've seen the screen shot above, that says the car has been subject to a salvage auction , but what does that mean? Does this car have a CAT status? Asking because AT have the car showing as clear on their site? And still advertised by present seller.

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Cunno said:

I've seen the screen shot above, that says the car has been subject to a salvage auction , but what does that mean? Does this car have a CAT status? Asking because AT have the car showing as clear on their site? And still advertised by present seller.

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Anyone know the answer to my question?

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Cunno said:

If it has no CAT status then it's probably no different to 50% of the cars on the market except that the forum jungle drums know about it's history. Sort of explains why when it rained at Oulton people put there toys away, as accident how ever small would be all over the forums and the car would become worthless.

Do agree that the original seller at 74k was taking piss and if car was priced and advertised correctly would of probably been sold by now and would of been at Oulton having some fun.

Saying cars worth 20k less even though it has no cat status is incorrect IMO, how many of us truly know our own cars history if bought used?

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Senoj said:

Cunno said:

Cunno said:

I've seen the screen shot above, that says the car has been subject to a salvage auction , but what does that mean? Does this car have a CAT status? Asking because AT have the car showing as clear on their site? And still advertised by present seller.

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Anyone know the answer to my question?

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It means nothing Jon. Apart from the fact it's been through a salvage auction, that in itself is not a 'status' of any sort.

The only way a car gets any sort of status is if the ins co tells the Dvla. Without wishing to be cynical you could think that the ins co gets more for the salvage without any status so what's their motivation for telling the DVLA...obviously it's a selling plus point for the salvage auction as they go to the effort of informing perspective buyers that cars are unrecorded with DVLA. You could argue they are being totally factual,which they are, but they are also pointing out an opportunity for perspective buyers to fix and put back on the road with zero disclosure.

You can think what you like about that. I think it's a bit bent.

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