Yup :thumb:ragpicker said:Robert SausageTrousers said:Have you had the bores checked for scoring?
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I suspect not otherwise he'd have said. Personally I wouldn't bother with anything else until I knew they were clean.
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Yup :thumb:ragpicker said:Robert SausageTrousers said:Have you had the bores checked for scoring?
:yeah:
I suspect not otherwise he'd have said. Personally I wouldn't bother with anything else until I knew they were clean.
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ragpicker said:OP, a friend of mine was looking for a 997 S not so long ago. He looked at 11 cars and only 1 had clean cylinders. The only one with no scoring ended up being a car on >100k miles. All the garage queens and low mileage examples were scored.
It is not internet scare tales.
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James M-S said:I would expect clutch to have been done, if not there's your first haggling point :thumb:
Basalt911 said:ragpicker said:OP, a friend of mine was looking for a 997 S not so long ago. He looked at 11 cars and only 1 had clean cylinders. The only one with no scoring ended up being a car on >100k miles. All the garage queens and low mileage examples were scored.
It is not internet scare tales.
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but does it need to be absolutely 'clean' cylinders?
I do wonder whether, because of the obsession with 997 bore scoring, we are more inclined to look harder at these cars when, presumably, all cars suffer from some kind of bore wear
I'm no mechanic, i just think 10/11 cars suggests we're looking for a unicorn if we want as new engines on 10+ year old cars
Basalt911 said:absolutely, recommend a check - a no-brainer
my point is that some light scoring is presumably acceptable on a 98k engine and too many people just run away at the mere mention of the S word (hence 10/11 cars quote). Light scoring and then all the right measures to prevent further damage is presumably acceptable at that age?
I guess nobody bore-scopes 98k M3s or Astons, but I assume they'd find less than perfect pictures if they did? Or maybe I'm talking b0ll0x.
simkin911 said:As someone looking for a 997 - I'm grateful to the OP for starting this thread and all the subsequent contributors.
However, some of the opinions expressed herein leave me a little nervous. Added to that, there is a car (S model) I've found that I am interested in but the seller organised a health check as part of the sales process to help buyers. The bore scope check simply reads 'clear'.
I'm not doubting this result (80k on car) but another thread on this site suggests the result is also influenced by the technician's ability and light quality etc. Added to this, Hartech seem to suggest that a clear scope now doesn't mean it'd be clear next year or the year after... etc.
I'm coming round to thinking I'm maybe simply better off considering a 997.1 c2 (with IMS upgraded) or aim for a 997.2 a little later down the line or a rebuild car. There was a GR 997 on Pistonheads last week for £8k requiring a rebuild but I'd prefer to buy and drive.
So, for the OP - yes, get a bore scope check but it seems it may only be as good as the technician and the result may only be 100% relevant at the time of purchase!
tvrkris said:... I am now in that paranoid moment as there are lots of horror stories about the Gen 1... am I better paying more for a gen 2????
not really fancying a engine rebuild at 8k......
tvrkris said:thank guys for all your posts.... I am now in that paranoid moment as there are lots of horror stories about the Gen 1... am I better paying more for a gen 2????
not really fancying a engine rebuild at 8k......
the guy had the car advertised for 20k I have seen the reciept for the engine change at bristol porsche was cared for by them until 2013 then by SCS porsche in Devon... from the pictures looks like it had a few stone chips at the front and was in silver heated seats, BOSE and reversing sensors.
i thnik he had it up from around begining of Feb and it is no longer advertised it is still for sale but the advert has finished I think.
checked MOT history nothing much to report on that
Front tyres wearing slightly on inner edges only not from MOT
passed every MOT from 2013 only failed in 08 and 13 on head lamp aim....
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