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Another lowered car rear camber issue post

Geo done this morning and now finally set to X74 alignment, car felt nice and balanced on the greasy wet roads afterwards, a bit tail happy but that was down to the conditions.

When there is a dry day I'll measure the ride heights and see how they compare to X74 now that I've fitted the spacers so others will know what to expect on a 3.4 C2 with Eibach lowering springs.
 
911munKy said:
Spacer below spring, it's a serendipitous coincidence that the springs and toe arm match the bodywork!

Sorry, just playing catch up.
Where did you get the adjustable toe arms?
 
Ned, see the link on page 1 in my first post - Hardrace arms £215, they seem really well made and fit perfectly.
 
Morning Jez,
Yep that's right or as I call it, going down the "blantantly copying Infrasilver" route. :D

I've only got as far as buying the outer track rod ends so far.
I'll be buying the inner end rose joints soon, then I'll look at the custom turnbuckles.

The car won't see much use until the spring so I'm concentrating on other things at the moment. :thumb:
 
Marky911 said:
Morning Jez,
Yep that's right or as I call it, going down the "blantantly copying Infrasilver" route. :D

I've only got as far as buying the outer track rod ends so far.
I'll be buying the inner end rose joints soon, then I'll look at the custom turnbuckles.

The car won't see much use until the spring so I'm concentrating on other things at the moment. :thumb:

Evening Marky,

I'm looking to do the same in the spring/summer, there may well be a few others, perhaps we could get a group buy discount on the turnbuckles?
 
jezgreen911 said:
Marky911 said:
Morning Jez,
Yep that's right or as I call it, going down the "blantantly copying Infrasilver" route. :D

I've only got as far as buying the outer track rod ends so far.
I'll be buying the inner end rose joints soon, then I'll look at the custom turnbuckles.

The car won't see much use until the spring so I'm concentrating on other things at the moment. :

Evening Marky,

I'm looking to do the same in the spring/summer, there may well be a few others, perhaps we could get a group buy discount on the turnbuckles?

I'd be up for this. I've read so much on here lately that I can't remember where I've seen what :dont know:
 
911munKy said:
Hi Toml, it does look like the rear toe setting was the main source of your handing woes as it should be about +0.10', I reckon last time it was set the alignment operator couldn't get it into spec due to the lowered springs giving excessive rear camber so, not knowing what he was doing, traded it with the toe setting to get the camber near enough............Please post back any feedback once you've had your suspension done, thanks.
So I got my car back today. In the end I decided against spacing the rear for increased height and just went with what geo could be achieved.

At the rear this is what I ended up with:

-2 deg 05' and -2 deg 11' camber
+10' toe and +12' toe

from:
-1 deg 51' and -1 deg 59' camber
+0.02 toe and +0.01 toe

I'm much happier now that I actually have some toe in! The camber is a bit much so Matt maxed the negative camber at the front (-42', -43') to at least get a bit more balance between the axles.

In future I might go for the increased height subframe bushes that Matt told me about, that will effectively raise the rear to reduce the camber, and we should still be able to keep the toe in spec.
 
I'm hoping to get some made at work but won't know yet how feasible it is as we are at full capacity for at least the next few months.

Alex Yates made Infra's for him for £30-£40 if I remember rightly, but he's too busy at the moment too.
Material is £10 ish, plus I'd want them zinc passivated ideally, for protection, then I'll have to slip the young'un at work a few beer tokens as he'll be stopping back to machine them, so it'll be tough to come out at that price.

I'll post up when I get nearer the time. The program will be saved for repeat batches (it's a 2 minute prog anyway) but I'm wary of supplying others as if they failed I'd be in trouble I imagine.
Happy to risk myself but not others. :D

I'll update soon but I doubt it'll be within the next 2 or 3 weeks unfortunately.

Toml I think adjustable toe links will be easier than raising subframes and things and you'll have infinite adjustment after that for any future changes. . Just my 2p. :thumb:
 
So starting to look into this as I'll be doing the suspension/arms over the winter.

Is the general consensus to get adjustable toe arms then or just go for it and hope you can get within spec using OEM arms?

I'll probably be going to around X-74 height, maybe a tad lower.
 
I need to be looking more at sorting this now too as I'm almost ready to sort the bushes as the next part of my refresh/ restoration. I must read through this and other threads to see what way I'll go with it as I've recently found a diamond in the rough in terms of getting the turn buckles and whatever else machined.
I've just been up to my eyes doing the welding work so haven't had a chance to sus it out
 
My understanding is that unless you plan to go lower than X74, need extreme camber, or your cars have some other issues, then you shouldn't need adjustable arms.

I had the suspension on my c2 upgraded earlier this summer. It previously had a tired stock/non sport setup. I knew I wanted something lower, with a fast road bias but it would need to cope with all the speedbumps around London. I pored over many threads here, & spoke to the very helpful team at Centre Gravity via email & several other specialists, & settled on aiming for X74.

I was advised that adjustable arms shouldn't be necessary unless you wanted to go really low, or perhaps wanted more camber. I briefly considered some adjustable arms, but advice from CG & 9e swayed me to a new set of meyle control arms, Porsche top mounts, toe arms, Bilstein PSS10 coilers, drop links & some H&R ARB's.

9e did the work for me, & I've been happy with it so far.

hth
 

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