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deMort said:The targa roof system is far more reliable than the 996 / 997 system .
When it does go wrong and requires cables though it is a massive job .. roof has to be cut off as its bonded in place at the rear from B post to B post .
You will get some noises from these but 90 % can be fixed .. at the end of the day the roof flexes an awfull lot and they were noisy from new .. let alone these days .
ireid said:TBH the torque is of greater interest to me than the BHP. I don't know enough about engine mechanics to understand the inter-relationship between power and torque. No doubt I'm going to be enlightened as part of the process!
Cameltoe & Heel said:deMort said:The targa roof system is far more reliable than the 996 / 997 system .
When it does go wrong and requires cables though it is a massive job .. roof has to be cut off as its bonded in place at the rear from B post to B post .
You will get some noises from these but 90 % can be fixed .. at the end of the day the roof flexes an awfull lot and they were noisy from new .. let alone these days .
and this man knows :wink:
Trev
ireid said:What do owners past and present think of the Targa vs the coupe? In particular, how noticeable is the reduced rigidity and how much more prone are they to squeaks and rattles?
ehcsrop said:ireid said:What do owners past and present think of the Targa vs the coupe? In particular, how noticeable is the reduced rigidity and how much more prone are they to squeaks and rattles?
Acceptable levels of rattles and squeaks can be subjective. The previous owner of my targa described it as free from rattles, though I did not agree during the test drive. It also felt slightly ponderous compared to the cabs let alone the coupes I had driven. As others have said the targa is a cab body. So consider it is fitted with a heavier glass roof, then its center of gravity will be higher than the cab.
I still bought it because:
1) Absolutely love the targa silhouette
2) My sunscreen is always drawn back and with the cabin constantly flooded with day light or street lighting, it makes every drive a little bit more special than if I were in a coupe.
3) Fantastic experience driving with the glass roof open, does not buffet as much as a cab with the top down and aids with hearing the raspy Europipe mufflers.
4) Love the targa silhouette.
For me this is a fast A/B road car with the roof opened. I would be disappointed with its performance on track. Having accepted that, I can't get enough of this car, it comes out at any given opportunity and it just feels special everytime. A 3.8 top end, RS clutch + LWF and Europipe boxes have helped, but have I mentioned that its the targa roof line that really appeals to me.
Thanks for that. Can you tell me more about how the RS clutch differs from the standard one in terms of feel, lightness, bite etc?ehcsrop said:ireid said:What do owners past and present think of the Targa vs the coupe? In particular, how noticeable is the reduced rigidity and how much more prone are they to squeaks and rattles?
Acceptable levels of rattles and squeaks can be subjective. The previous owner of my targa described it as free from rattles, though I did not agree during the test drive. It also felt slightly ponderous compared to the cabs let alone the coupes I had driven. As others have said the targa is a cab body. So consider it is fitted with a heavier glass roof, then its center of gravity will be higher than the cab.
I still bought it because:
1) Absolutely love the targa silhouette
2) My sunscreen is always drawn back and with the cabin constantly flooded with day light or street lighting, it makes every drive a little bit more special than if I were in a coupe.
3) Fantastic experience driving with the glass roof open, does not buffet as much as a cab with the top down and aids with hearing the raspy Europipe mufflers.
4) Love the targa silhouette.
For me this is a fast A/B road car with the roof opened. I would be disappointed with its performance on track. Having accepted that, I can't get enough of this car, it comes out at any given opportunity and it just feels special everytime. A 3.8 top end, RS clutch + LWF and Europipe boxes have helped, but have I mentioned that its the targa roof line that really appeals to me.
Hi,Cameltoe & Heel said:Great post and echoes many of the reasons I have a Targa, how do you get a 3.8 top end?, are you saying you have RS heads?.
Trev
Hi,ireid said:Thanks for that. Can you tell me more about how the RS clutch differs from the standard one in terms of feel, lightness, bite etc?
ehcsrop said:Hi,ireid said:Thanks for that. Can you tell me more about how the RS clutch differs from the standard one in terms of feel, lightness, bite etc?
The issue is not so much about how the clutch differs, but rather how the LWF differs. Main benefit of fitting a LWF is to let the engine rev faster. I believe the standard clutch is only suitable for the heavier DMF (correct me if I am wrong), hence why an RS clutch or one with RS spec is required.
If you are used to a DMF, you will need to recalibrate your clutch/accelerator balance and once you have mastered it, its a joy to use.
I have heard some people say that they dont last as long, but that could be down to incorrect use and those individuals riding the clutch too much. It needs to be used more like an on/off switch. The first set on my car was fitted by the previous owner and saw 46,682 miles of use before it needed replacing.
Would not have been an ideal set up for me if the car was mainly used for a town driving. A lot of folk say there is no place for a LWF + RS clutch unless you are tracking the car. I don't do track work and this set up works beautifully for me on fast A/B roads.
So the best bits for me:
A menacing chunter at idle (to some it may sound like a bag of nails).
It feels raw, bites quicker and somehow gives me the sensation of being hardwired to the transmission (placebo?)
A more responsive acceleration.
Rev matching on down shifts- its so razor sharp and sounds race car like.
Overall it offers me a more immersive driving experience.