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Endoman
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Choice is between Montford Mid Rise Car Scissor Lift and Twin Busch ® Low rise scissor lift TW S3-10 E.
Similar spec and price. I will recess the lift as sill height is 113mm and minimum height of both is 110mm and cover the center section with ali tread plate. Both have interconnecting bars and electro magnetic locks so a compromise as the independent type either have no locks or pneumatic locks. I don't want to rely on parachute valves or connect an air line. Just need to sort out what to do with the drive on ramps which will be superfluous
Twin-Busche site shows a 911 on the ramp but it looks like a Dakar rally one. Bendpak lift has almost the right spec but too expensive, no one else seems to do a mid-rise infloor lift.
The Twin-Busch site is well worth a look, very professional set-up, what you would expect from a German company.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also looking for a lift to work on my 993, but I can anyone confirm you can carry out an oil change on either the Montford or Twin Busch as it looks like both would restrict access to the side drain hole?
Otherwise I have been looking at either BH Repairs or Jema Autolifts JA28000S, but I also have a seal to replace on my transmission which leaves a question mark on those too!
 
  
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wilsonny
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xbonick wrote:
I'm also looking for a lift to work on my 993, but I can anyone confirm you can carry out an oil change on either the Montford or Twin Busch as it looks like both would restrict access to the side drain hole?
Otherwise I have been looking at either BH Repairs or Jema Autolifts JA28000S, but I also have a seal to replace on my transmission which leaves a question mark on those too!


couple of vid's from this guy using a scissor lift on a 993 might give you an idea on this style of lift and what is blocked/clear - his is actually an old style one with end bars, so more restrictive than the ones currently on sale in UK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owpqpwf5_AI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfbm4Rcc6x4&t=493s
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks wilsonny, for sure it looks safe to go with something like what 911% uses, but anyone purchased something like the twinbusch confirm if it works any better?
I was hoping endoman may have made a purchase, it's just the oil change that could be a challenge from what I can tell. I've not been able to find any confirmation either way, I did contact twinbusch and they feel it should be ok, I'm just concerned about side access for draining the oil etc.
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Kat1
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xbonick wrote:
can anyone confirm you can carry out an oil change on either the Montford or Twin Busch as it looks like both would restrict access to the side drain hole?


Whilst I do not own either of these I have what I suspect is a Chinese copy of one or both.

There is no problem accessing the gear box filler or drain however it needs a little ingenuity to drain the oil from the catch tank on the 993 as there is too little clearance between the horizontal ramp and catch tank drain plug.

I normally increase the clearance between the 993 sill and horizontal ramp by 100 mm or so. (lift car on ramp, put blocks under wheels - lower car to blocks and ramps to ground - increase packing between ramps and sills )

That allows enough space to remove drain plug but of course there is not enough room to put a drain tray in.

So I then rig up some sort of gully to run the oil into the disposal receptacle. You could use a short length of half round guttering, I have used cardboard for the same purpose.

The last time I did an oil change I removed the pivoting access ramp (circlip and drift out pin) and ran the oil straight into the receptacle via the "guttering"

I use a 25 litre drum for waste oil and a 300 mm funnel to fill it. I then drop the car until it all lines up and remove the drain plug.

Whilst it may sound like a PIA to do, it has taken me longer to type this than it takes to do it and it is only a once a year job.
 
  
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xbonick
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Kat1, If I understand correctly I would need to make at least 100mm space between ramp and underside of car to be able to complete oil change.
Like you say it's only once a year so maybe I shouldn't be so focused on that one issue.
Thanks again hope to post a picture once decided as my transmission seal leak is getting urgent!
 
  
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Endoman
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strongman lift has arrived.16 amp socket yet to be fitted and working out best position in garage. It looks very robust, certainly heavy but surprisingly easy to manouver with its jockey wheels.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks a good choice - very similar to mine. Absolutely love having a ramp (am wondering why I didn't buy one years ago). I have had the 996 in the air for the last 3 weeks, while I refresh the front suspension.

I have ended up putting some old worktop at either end of the ramps (so that when the car is over the lift, each wheel is on a piece of worktop). Its helped to give me more clearance/gap between the lift and the sills, otherwise it was a bit tight trying to fit the lift pads between the ramp and the sills
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Endoman
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried the 944 on it today, still no power, and I need to do something similar as there is no room for the lifting pads. I've ordered a pair of Raceramps and will fabricate something for the front end. Eventually I want to recess it into the garage floor and cover the center section with a sheet of treadplate.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Work on 944 finished so put the 993 on, perfect fit. The ramps and chocks work a treat.
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nickjonesn4
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Endoman wrote:
Work on 944 finished so put the 993 on, perfect fit. The ramps and chocks work a treat.


well done. can you give the specs of the extra bits you had to fit? if nothing else this is a great security measure!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John that looks great, are you in the new place now?, if so you settled in?.

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Endoman
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ramps are from Raceramps, loads of different types, very light.
I made the front chocks out of some scrap wood from the kitchen floor which had to be replaced. The car now sits 4" above the lift so I can get the lifting blocks in. The lift has electro mechanical locks so does not rely on the hydraulics alone. Garage now fully operatinal if a bit untidy. Unfortunately waiting for builders to finish work on the house (sound familiar?)
The back yard is being resurfaced by a fellow Porsche enthusiast who wants me to adopt him after seeing the garage.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Endoman wrote:
The ramps are from Raceramps, loads of different types, very light.
I made the front chocks out of some scrap wood from the kitchen floor which had to be replaced. The car now sits 4" above the lift so I can get the lifting blocks in. The lift has electro mechanical locks so does not rely on the hydraulics alone. Garage now fully operatinal if a bit untidy. Unfortunately waiting for builders to finish work on the house (sound familiar?)
The back yard is being resurfaced by a fellow Porsche enthusiast who wants me to adopt him after seeing the garage.


Great info! Having garage refurbished so v tempted to do this...
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wilsonny
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as I was OP, thought I should update on my choice of lift. I went for a scissor lift from sjr garage equipment. originally planned to cut the garage floor and sink it in flush but some concerns with drains and supplies meant that I instead opted to raise the surrounding floor. it's not exactly a Jack Olsen result, but it's done the job and I'm pretty pleased with it. first serious job it is going to get used for will be the rear cv boots this winter. feels nice and stable.

[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/xxr86bwftGPgJBsd7[/img]

[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/gkbEAS9EYWW8w1EJ9[/img]

[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/UhQKDzVhF1Eem8yW9[/img]

[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/DjFJhiEKoWimwLGc7[/img]
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wilsonny wrote:
as I was OP, thought I should update on my choice of lift.


don't think my photo links were working in last post, here's one that does https://photos.app.goo.gl/9J4ZwWBGcgK9k6nk9
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