nickjonesn4 said:
I kind of feel like you're missing the point. Maybe the previous group of 993 owners on here became obsessed with sell on values and originality but looking at the posts of most on here now they have bought these cars to drive not as investments.
I've just invested around £20k inn my car because I love it and because I didn't want another modern car the £80ishK I paid for mine. All the usual irrational reasons apply - physical connection to the steered wheels, lack of traction control, manual gearbox etc etc. But even on a rational level, If I sold my car and got £90k for it next year I would still have had more fun and lost less money than if I'd bought a 991 or worse even a ghastly Jap or Italian pretender.
Get your point but not sure how many forumers its relevant for anymore?
Interesting this as I think you have the link many are overlooking.
Like you, I wanted a 993 and preferably a wide body rear drive car (although I would have possibly taken a 4S or the right NB C2). When I say wanted one, I mean I wanted one above all else at any price point be it within or over budget.
These cars are the last of the true breed, they are engaging, classy enough to take anywhere. They don't look overly flash so I never feel embarrassed if I parked it up in a client's car park, I can rock up to a classic car show, a track day, drive it across Europe.
They are reliable, there is room for the dog and everything a couple of people might need on a road trip or holiday. I love the way it looks, I like that it is pure 90s cool, the noise it makes is perfection. I have read people say things like these cars wouldn't see which way a modern hot hatch went – not with me behind the wheel, it is still quick compared to modern sports cars despite its age.
Some of the issue I understand from having a 964. You buy a car in the £teens and within a short space of time it is worth double. You know it is worth double yet somehow in the back of your head it isn't and you start to think you could swap it for something else. In my case it was a Spyder. The perception is these are better cars and there is some sort of trade up as these cars were always far more than £teens even though the selling/purchase prices are similar today.
Then there is the hindsight thing going on where people can justify the spend on a 993 against the value increase. Not everyone who has pumped money back into a 993 has done it because they know the costs were covered by the price increases. I doubt many of us bought one as an actual investment, or were expecting free motoring. It is just the way things have played out that it almost seems like buying a car which may depreciate, or may cost thousands to maintain is insanity. It is actually the way it has always been with perhaps a few rare exceptions.
I have a 160k miles 993 bought a little over two years ago. If I add up the purchase and everything spent from collection to date maybe pushing over £90k? Not finished either.
£65k on a 3.8 C2 NB like at RPM? I'd of been all over that. Far more interesting (to me) than a car at £40k that is pretty much standard. If you want one you have to pay. People like Nick and myself prove the market is real. Either that or we are both utterly ***** mental. :boxer:
