Senoj said:
I really dont think it lessens driver involvement unless beeing backwards in the armco makes you feel more invloved :floor:
Its an optional driver aid, same as decent tyre or decent suspension or brakes.
We will agree to disagree here Senoj. Tyres and suspension are passive 'intervention' (Aside from the active dampers PASM which will again lesson the involvement) whilst TC is an active intervention. It affects your input to correct the situation when it deems things are going 'wrong'. If not why have the ability to turn it off on GTs???
Why drive at all on track if you dont want the risk of ending up in the armco. Why do people drive with Cup tyres and risk aquaplaning or ending up in the armco (weather is never a certainty). Why drive the Nordschleife when on most of the track there is little run off - if you are risk averse then stick to disused flat runways in the dry.
The whole point for many is driver involvement. Man and machine verses track. No aids, good tyres and geometry/suspension set up. The easy option is all weather tyres in an 'auto' GT3 RS with all systems 'ON' but I dont think you can say that this is the most involving/interactive solution on the basis that you
may not end up in the armco.
I would argue that the more aids the less the driver skill. Already you see the younger generation who think they are driving gods just because they are able to lap a track quickly in a safety enhanced car (TC/PASM, rear parking camera/sensors, auto wipers, automatic headlights, crossing a white line warning system et cetera et cetera). Take away those items are they are out of their comfort zone. They have become lazy and cosseted by these aids.
Don't get me wrong Senoj each to their own and you are probably 'lucky' in that you have experisnced the pre 'safety' car era although prefer aids to involvment and what you perceive as increased risk.
I think the 996 GT3/RS are the last of the fully interactive and most driver involving Porsche.
Pip
Ps I did text you (obviously and old number) and send a PM to be able to get you that drink. I also popped into the Dorint bar on Sunday but did not see you. I hope that you had a 'safe' couple of days on track.