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991.2 GT3 engine failure

Roro said:
Kerbing wheels causes chassis damage on the 991.2 :eek:

I ignored this thread until I realised it was about the 991 gen 2.. what's going on at Porsche... :?:

For me the GT3 as we know and love ended with the 997.2
VW ownership will of had the bean counters in full effect :nooo:
 
996ttalot said:
G2 said:
996ttalot said:
jotaking said:
Unlucky I guess??

How do you rate Porsche's response?

And...

Will Porsche let you know the cause of the issue?
I have maybe 10-12 customers with them of which half have been on track a lot with no issues so I don't think this is similar to before. The fact that our failed so early could be just build or component issue - unlikely to find out. Porsche replaced without fuss in a few weeks. replacement now has several thousand miles with no issues.

As an aside I have lots of tuning requests on latest cars and we don't entertain this unless there is at least 1000 miles on the car precisely for this type of situation

Ken

Do the mechanics/tuners that get hands on with these cars sense any difference in the quality levels of the materials in use? Eg a jockey can tell the quality of a horse with a little time in the saddle. Genuinely interested as considering a 991 GT car next year. :?:
definite increase in quality of GT cars. The major issue we are seeing on these cars is the consequences of the use of aluminium in the chassis - I would advise against curbing wheels because they can caused chassis damage. Other things we are seeing is an accumulation of a function as a direct replacement rather than individual parts e.g. on some of the latest with spoiler issues, you are buying a whole system of that function instead of a single broken part component. Still have the usual combination of materials that don't mix well - manifold bolts etc are still the same material so still the same issues.

thanks . Appreciate the insight. :thumb:
 
kas750 said:
Roro said:
Kerbing wheels causes chassis damage on the 991.2 :eek:

I ignored this thread until I realised it was about the 991 gen 2.. what's going on at Porsche... :?:

For me the GT3 as we know and love ended with the 997.2
VW ownership will of had the bean counters in full effect :nooo:

:yeah: But I would say that having chosen one over a 991 recently. Are they trying to push the NA envelope too far for reliable road use? Hope not as it would be a shame if NA option disappeared altogether. I'll be watching developments with interest :popcorn:
 
kas750 said:
Roro said:
Kerbing wheels causes chassis damage on the 991.2 :eek:

I ignored this thread until I realised it was about the 991 gen 2.. what's going on at Porsche... :?:

For me the GT3 as we know and love ended with the 997.2
VW ownership will of had the bean counters in full effect :nooo:

Not just the GT3, but the entire 911 range as far as I'm concerned. But thats just me :dont know:
 
Man this is not encouraging. I have a 991.2 3RS to arrive in August and and hoped this new engine would be solid, trouble free performer. Disappointed.
 
Self indulgent claptrap, along with much painful faux hand-wringing.

New car engine fails. Manufacturer supplies and fits replacement. The end.
 
One other report of an engine failure by a GT3 owner in Canada.
 
Slippydiff said:
Self indulgent claptrap, along with much painful faux hand-wringing.

New car engine fails. Manufacturer supplies and fits replacement. The end.

All fine and well for those lucky enough to buy a new one, not exactly confidence inspiring though for someone paying a still considerable sum of money for a used one in a few years when the warranty runs out.
Pretty poor in my opinion given the decades of experience Porsche has that they find it difficult to build engines which are reliable.

It seems that they've had design flaws with every engine they've built since the last of the air cooled engines, with the exception of the 996 GT3 and Turbo model.
The end!
 
solution; extend the warranty !
I would anyway just for overall peace of mind, not just the engine.
 
david_yorkshire said:
solution; extend the warranty !
I would anyway just for overall peace of mind, not just the engine.

Spending nearly 275K USD for the 3RS man that shouldn't be necessary. How bout Porsche build a car that is worth that kind of money.
 
Porsche2018 said:
david_yorkshire said:
solution; extend the warranty !
I would anyway just for overall peace of mind, not just the engine.

Spending nearly 275K USD for the 3RS man that shouldn't be necessary. How bout Porsche build a car that is worth that kind of money.

buying new (or S/H from OPC) you get the warranty ?

It certainly doesn't look like an epidemic failure rate.

Plus, the warranty expires, then pay for the extended warranty ?
given all the perks it gives you (in the UK at least) I wouldn't run a car over £100K in value without it.

The Mezger isn't totally bombproof either ...
(but it is a damn good engine !)
 
david_yorkshire said:
Porsche2018 said:
david_yorkshire said:
solution; extend the warranty !
I would anyway just for overall peace of mind, not just the engine.

Spending nearly 275K USD for the 3RS man that shouldn't be necessary. How bout Porsche build a car that is worth that kind of money.

buying new (or S/H from OPC) you get the warranty ?

It certainly doesn't look like an epidemic failure rate.

Plus, the warranty expires, then pay for the extended warranty ?
given all the perks it gives you (in the UK at least) I wouldn't run a car over £100K in value without it.

The Mezger isn't totally bombproof either ...
(but it is a damn good engine !)

Thank you my friend for the advice. The 3RS is a new purchase and I am covered X4 years but I absolutely never do extended warranties.......Always buy quality products to avoid the concern and although this is my second foray into the Porsche world if the car goes face down it will my last. Great lap times are impressive but I absolutely expect a car like this to do more than one lap.
 
AVI_8 said:
Slippydiff said:
Self indulgent claptrap, along with much painful faux hand-wringing.

New car engine fails. Manufacturer supplies and fits replacement. The end.

All fine and well for those lucky enough to buy a new one, not exactly confidence inspiring though for someone paying a still considerable sum of money for a used one in a few years when the warranty runs out.
Pretty poor in my opinion given the decades of experience Porsche has that they find it difficult to build engines which are reliable.

It seems that they've had design flaws with every engine they've built since the last of the air cooled engines, with the exception of the 996 GT3 and Turbo model.
The end!

Regrettably Porsche is now trading on its past glories. Their once well earned reputation for engineering excellence is now long gone. The VAG bean counters now rule the roost, not the Porsche engineering department.
Caveat Emptor.
 
You could argue though that their reputation went tits up before VW (officially) took over - they were making chocolate Carrera engines since the early 2000's up until the 997.2 DFi
:?:
 

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