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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robertb wrote:
Probably wouldn't get much better than this, but priced accordingly.

https://www.parklaneuk.com/cars-for-sale/7629053-porsche-911-996-turbo-coupe/


Bit more than I’d like to spend really but does look nice....I’ve been seriously contemplating viewing the 996t at Hexagon.
The modern Classic have a nice black on black Manual with decent mileage and on the money.... Dont know

There is this car that’s been on my radar too...I’ve enquired - no BOSE or Nav and a earlier car but looks a decent car for fair asking? Question
https://www.portlandautos.co.uk/stock/yorkshire-porsche-911-turbo-2932/#PhotoSwipe1524501956639
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your budget will get you into a face lift MY2002 car which is by far the more sought after. You'll notice this when you come to move it on - "its great car BUT many people after one of these want the later 2002 onwards facelift model"

Of course it will still give you pleasurable ownership but your budget can get you into a face lift model. But its your choice.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheshire911 wrote:
Your budget will get you into a face lift MY2002 car which is by far the more sought after. You'll notice this when you come to move it on - "its great car BUT many people after one of these want the later 2002 onwards facelift model"

Of course it will still give you pleasurable ownership but your budget can get you into a face lift model. But its your choice.


Sorry for highjack but what are the main differences between pre and post facelift cars ?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The usual reply will be the face lift has a glovebox and cup holders..........

From a PH's post:
The 996 Turbo was unveilled in late 1999 for 2000 model year.

The 2001 models gained electric switches to open the front and rear lids, and improved interior illumination.

2002 models were the so-called facelift cars: glovebox, twin cup-holders, soft-touch plastics, better ventilation, Bose sound system, an auto-dim interior mirror and a rain sensor.

*In 2002, the 996’s rigidity and crash protection were both enhanced while the interior quality was improved *

* Remains contentious. Perhaps someone else who has Adrian Streathers book may be able to clarify
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheshire911 wrote:
The usual reply will be the face lift has a glovebox and cup holders..........

From a PH's post:
The 996 Turbo was unveilled in late 1999 for 2000 model year.

The 2001 models gained electric switches to open the front and rear lids, and improved interior illumination.

2002 models were the so-called facelift cars: glovebox, twin cup-holders, soft-touch plastics, better ventilation, Bose sound system, an auto-dim interior mirror and a rain sensor.

*In 2002, the 996’s rigidity and crash protection were both enhanced while the interior quality was improved *

* Remains contentious. Perhaps someone else who has Adrian Streathers book may be able to clarify


Cheers Cheshire
Actually a few notable differences then Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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*In 2002, the 996’s rigidity and crash protection were both enhanced while the interior quality was improved *

* Remains contentious. Perhaps someone else who has Adrian Streathers book may be able to clarify



The contention here has always been with regard to whether this includes the Turbo.

My thoughts have always been that it's meant only to refer to the difference between a Gen1 and a Gen2 Carrera.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BChivs wrote:
So I looked at a 997T today, which for the asking price was pretty poor cond....had a lot going for it. Manual, decent mileage, rare colour(cobalt)...bodywork wasn’t too bad, but the interior was shagged! Not just normal wear and tear commensurate with age, but badly treated and beyond repair without some serious expenditure. Not for me.

To be honest I was a bit dissapoijntrd with the dealer....no test drives? Who in their right mind buys a £50k odd grand car without even driving it! Well obviously quite a few it seems, but a deal breaker for me.

Additionally to this it didn’t give me the same draw as a 996. I think I am going to concentrate my search specifically to a 996T Manual. I’ve spent the last 2-3 weeks seriously considering other models including a 996C4S, a 997.2, and 997T, but the 996T is what Ive made up my mind I want.

So, if anyone has a 996t they are looking to move on or knows of any not yet advertised please let me know. I have a suitable cash amount sat waiting.

Out of interests, does anyone know what the X50 pack would add value wise?


Hi OP, was this car at an independent dealer in Slough? Only cobalt manual with 52k miles I can see for sale. What was it about the interior that let it down in your opinion?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friends 996T is for sale at RPR specialist cars (Peter Richardson) Meridian Silver Manual Black Interior, a lovely well cared for car with full history 03 plate, tweaked and mental quick.
Check it out on the RPR website honest dealer with a good rep and his own 911 collection will blow you away, originally bought from Peter who is selling it on SOR basis, no stories and a very straight car.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[ot for me.

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Hi OP, was this car at an independent dealer in Slough? Only cobalt manual with 52k miles I can see for sale. What was it about the interior that let it down in your opinion?[/quote]

Kick plates inside the doors battered, loads of bad indentations in the rear seats, backs of both seats scuffed to bits, glove box and area surrounding it badly dented and marked, drivers seat looked like it had done 152k not 52k, drivers door card leather dented, drivers door grab handle badly scratched, scuff on rear bumper down to the black plastic, lacquer peeling on wheels, windscreen badly chipped etc....
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have looked at mine mate
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Should have looked at mine mate


Pretty much what I said
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Should have looked at mine mate


Yeah your probably right Scott! Embarassed

I am leaning to a 996 but I will PM you.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok mate
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is whats available on PHs sorted by manual car, coupe with up to 50,000 miles:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?CarTypeFF=COU&Category=used-cars&M=1044&MileageTo=50000&Transmission=MAN

You've probably seen these as I think you are trawling PHs in any case?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BChivs wrote:
kozzi wrote:
Should have looked at mine mate


Yeah your probably right Scott! Embarassed

I am leaning to a 996 but I will PM you.


Just checking you got my PM?

Tis fine if mine is not what you are looking for...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

angry wrote:
BChivs wrote:
kozzi wrote:
Should have looked at mine mate


Yeah your probably right Scott! Embarassed

I am leaning to a 996 but I will PM you.


Just checking you got my PM?

Tis fine if mine is not what you are looking for...


Likewise, I sent you a PM, but not sure if you've received it?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheshire911 wrote:
Here is whats available on PHs sorted by manual car, coupe with up to 50,000 miles:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?CarTypeFF=COU&Category=used-cars&M=1044&MileageTo=50000&Transmission=MAN

You've probably seen these as I think you are trawling PHs in any case?


There are a few there I keep going back to.....the top one at historic and modern classics fits the bill in every way....budget, mileage, spec, colour, history etc....I have enquired, but I can’t help to read the bad reviews and having a bad experience with my last car I think if it happened again I would get very little sympathy!

Many of the x50 cars are more than I want to pay....I think £50k gets you into a nice 996T so although additional funds are available it would need to be very special for me to justify any more than this.

The silver car in Surrey I’ve enquired....needs loads of things doing. It’s in quite a sorry state which the seller is open about hence the price...could be a fixer upper if the price was right but the history isn’t perfect either which can’t be fixed!

The black car at Historics I may go for....I have spoken with the dealer who are selling and have allowed me to view prior to the auction, test drive and view on their ramps.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

angry wrote:
BChivs wrote:
kozzi wrote:
Should have looked at mine mate


Yeah your probably right Scott! Embarassed

I am leaning to a 996 but I will PM you.


Just checking you got my PM?

Tis fine if mine is not what you are looking for...


Hi mate, I did send you a PM.....mileage and cond are important for me but thanks Thumb
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angry wrote:
BChivs wrote:
kozzi wrote:
Should have looked at mine mate


Yeah your probably right Scott! Embarassed

I am leaning to a 996 but I will PM you.


Just checking you got my PM?

Tis fine if mine is not what you are looking for...


Likewise, I sent you a PM, but not sure if you've received it?


Pm’d
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