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John H
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:01 pm    Post subject: Which Michelin tyres? Reply with quote

Hi Guys - I'm about ready to change all 4 tyres on my 997 GTS.

As my warranty has recently expired and can't be renewed, due to my Sharkwerks Exhaust By-pass, this is no longer a straight forward process!

I definitely want to stay with Michelin but am unsure whether to change my current N-rated PS2's for PS4's or Super Sports? Not having previously tried either, I'd appreciate some guidance from anyone who has... many thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS4S gets my vote. I recently changed from Pirelli Pzero.

Not tried PSS
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=92039&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

Have read up here. Page 2, fourth post down, last line, speaks highly of the yet to be N rated Pilot Super Sport. Could be what you're looking for?
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS4S are awesome
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried MPS2 loved them then MPSS loved them as much although I dont like the curved side profile and small rim protector as much as the MPS2 ,my plan is to go to MPS4 at the next change as they I am told have the very latest technology, and for me a nicer side profile which I guess is only important when your lowered and looking for optimum visual stance. Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having only just fitted the PS4S, it’s a bit early to say much about performance. Might have a better idea once it warms up.

I’ve had PS2 and still running PSS that replaced those. PSS offer much better rim protection than the newer PS4S, but that probably won’t stop me when the PSS wear out.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the dry PSS and PS4S are indistinguishable

PS4S better in the wet by quite a bit, and allegedly wear a bit better but i havent had mine on long enough yet
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pcat wrote:
In the dry PSS and PS4S are indistinguishable

PS4S better in the wet by quite a bit, and allegedly wear a bit better but i havent had mine on long enough yet


I will be swapping out my aging Bridgestones in the spring and I was thinking to go with the 4S due to rave reviews on here. However, I am a fan of big rim protectors as they just seem to look the part. Given that PSS have the protection and I don't take the car out in the wet, PSS may just be the way to go Question
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is rim protection on the PS4S. Unless you park like a girl, you'll probably be fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magic919 wrote:
There is rim protection on the PS4S. Unless you park like a girl, you'll probably be fine.


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I appreciate the rim protector from a visual perspective not as a parking aid!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pcat wrote:
In the dry PSS and PS4S are indistinguishable

PS4S better in the wet by quite a bit, and allegedly wear a bit better but i havent had mine on long enough yet


The PS4S is the update to the PSS
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porsche News wrote:
pcat wrote:
In the dry PSS and PS4S are indistinguishable

PS4S better in the wet by quite a bit, and allegedly wear a bit better but i havent had mine on long enough yet


The PS4S is the update to the PSS


I am aware, but i stand by my comment. Pretty much all the press reviews agree.
 
  
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John H
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very many thanks guys for your responses..

Overall consensus appears, in the main, to prefer the PS4S

The below video fully supports that verdict...

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilot-Sport-4-S-VS-Michelin-Pilot-Super-Sport.htm

Your time taken to reply is much appreciated... Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ordered a set of PS4S from ATS Euromaster - due to be fitted when the weather gets warmer.

Just wondered if I'm likely to experience any problems with the TPMS sensors?

Anyone been in a similar situation?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problems at all, they are nothing to do with the tyres they are just the valves.

I had PS4S`s fitted 12 months back, done 14000 miles since then without any issues at all. Had them checked yesterday and have 6mm tread left still.

They grip like mad, even in this wet cold weather. Really really struggle to get any sort of spin out of them.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have mp4s after I swapped out my Bridgestones. Night and day difference. Superb tyre. Look out for my review in total 911 magazine in the coming months.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All,

I have used all of the from PS2 to Super Sport to PS4S.

I believe there is a subtle difference between PS4 and 4S but as has been said the 4S is the updated version of the original Super Sport and are a great tyre .

If I could fit them and keep the warranty I would every time.

I was told yesterday by an OPC Michelin pulled the plug on getting the N rating late in the day and there is no sign of this happening any time soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW I’ve just ordered a pair of PS4S 305/30 19s online from Oponeo for £482.
Delivered foc to my usual tyre fitter who charges £10/wheel to swap tyres over.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James M-S wrote:
PS4S gets my vote. I recently changed from Pirelli Pzero.

Not tried PSS


^^ this.

Don’t bother reading the rest of this thread
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John H
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys - update on the new tyres...

I finally had the Michelin PS4S's fitted to my 997 GTS last week. The only problem at ATS Euromaster was that they had to acquire a new tool to set the correct torque for the centrelocks.

Verdict after 200 miles - absolutely fantastic - best tyres I've ever experienced on a 911 in over 35 years...!!

The ride is much smoother and quieter than the N-Rated PS2's

I can definitely recommend them - no doubt about it... Thumb
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