997.1 resonator mod......New product.

daz parker said:

TonyC911 said:

daz parker said:

I used the registration number off the car and it gave part number 909330071.

Which I assume is the wrong one according to you?

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I checked the BMC website first for the correct part:

http://www.bmcairfilters.co.uk/eng/car-filters/fb156-01/37/art

I suggest you check with ECP to confirm if this is the same part you have ordered (I suspect not). As you can see from the BMC and Design911 websites, the filter design is not rectangular. Hope that helps.

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When I put it in it gives the rectangular one?!?

http://www.bmcairfilters.com/eng/car-filters/fb468-20/608/art

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daz parker said:

TonyC911 said:

daz parker said:

I used the registration number off the car and it gave part number 909330071.

Which I assume is the wrong one according to you?

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I checked the BMC website first for the correct part:

http://www.bmcairfilters.co.uk/eng/car-filters/fb156-01/37/art

I suggest you check with ECP to confirm if this is the same part you have ordered (I suspect not). As you can see from the BMC and Design911 websites, the filter design is not rectangular. Hope that helps.

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When I put it in it gives the rectangular one?!?

http://www.bmcairfilters.com/eng/car-filters/fb468-20/608/art

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TonyC911 said:

daz parker said:

TonyC911 said:

daz parker said:

I used the registration number off the car and it gave part number 909330071.

Which I assume is the wrong one according to you?

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I checked the BMC website first for the correct part:

http://www.bmcairfilters.co.uk/eng/car-filters/fb156-01/37/art

I suggest you check with ECP to confirm if this is the same part you have ordered (I suspect not). As you can see from the BMC and Design911 websites, the filter design is not rectangular. Hope that helps.

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When I put it in it gives the rectangular one?!?

http://www.bmcairfilters.com/eng/car-filters/fb468-20/608/art

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You are looking at the wrong car model again - see all available below:

MODEL HP YEAR CHASSIS ENGINE CODE SHAPE CODE
PORSCHE 911 (997) 3.6 Carrera 325 04 > 08 997 Flat FB156/01
PORSCHE 911 (997) 3.6 Carrera [Full Kit] 345 08 > 997 Cylindrical FB550/08
PORSCHE 911 (997) 3.6 Turbo 480 06 > 09 997 Flat FB473/04
PORSCHE 911 (997) 3.8 Carrera S 355 04 > 06 997 Flat FB156/01
PORSCHE 911 (997) 3.8 Carrera S [Full Kit] 355 06 > 08 997 Flat FB468/20
PORSCHE 911 (997) 3.8 Carrera S [Full Kit] 385 08 > 997 Cylindrical FB550/08

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TonyC911 said:

Just in case anyone else has any doubt, I fitted my new BMC filter tonight and it is definitely the correct part FB156-01 :thumb:

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KJD said:

For those considering the 997.1 resonator mod I wanted to let you know about a new complete kit that has just come to the market.

Over the summer Samco developed a kit that allows blanking off the resonator valve so it's effectively always closed and a replacement quality silicone inlet hose with clips. You simply remove your old Y inlet hose fit the blanking piece and fit the replacement silicone hose.

With this done you get the induction noise further down the rev range. I'm not suggesting any performance advantage in my view it's just a nicer sound .

At the moment the hose is only available to order through Time Motorsport http://www.time-motorsport.com/home as they did all the development work and work closely with Samco..
If anyone is interested in a kit contact them and discuss your requirements.


The hose is available in a range of colours from the standard range or other colours with a small surcharge.
At present they don't have any shelf stock as they are made to order with a lead time of 4 weeks.
My black hose is a standard colour and the full kit inc VAT is £57 plus £8.95 delivery .

It's a great mod and easy to revert back to OEM if you wanted to.


I have no connection to Samco or Time Motorsport and nothing to gain.
I'm just letting you know that this kit is available.











AWESOME ! As usual I just dropped in to the forum to see what's what and this was the first post I read. I have the BMC air filter sat in my shed waiting to be installed so I'll order one of these tomorrow.

14 yrs of 911s in and I still don't know Anything about the tech stuff and I've never heard of a Resonator Mod but for £60 odd quid and you lot rate it - that's good enough for me !!!

Cheers

Dan

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gazbo666 said:

Mine has arrived from Time Motorsport. It looks very good quality and the service form Time was impeccable :thumb: The only problem is the wife wants to wrap it up for Xmas :nooo: :nooo:

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KJD said:

gazbo666 said:

Mine has arrived from Time Motorsport. It looks very good quality and the service form Time was impeccable :thumb: The only problem is the wife wants to wrap it up for Xmas :nooo: :nooo:

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Advise her you need it before hand otherwise you will be fitting it Christmas Day :grin:

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Phil 997 said:

daz parker said:

What are the competition charging for the same pipe?

Also didn't I read this be done by putting a cap inside the standard tube.

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There are guys out there Daz that want to block the resonator while keeping the OE look they effectively bung the res hole then put the OE induction back over it . but the only gain from that is the slight induction note increase , they wont be benefiting from the incresed note from using a sports filter and improved cold air induction from using both the sports filter and the smooth pipe as the OE pipe due to its shape creates turbulent air which doesnt move as smoothly and quickly as smooth flowing air . the idea is to get as much cold air in as quick as you can . note the tiny little things porsche do to reduce output on the carraras to stop them being to close to the flagship models .
little things I have noted are
rearward facing air intake grille , gt3 has forward facing bigger openings creating more ram air
single air intake into the air filter , funny changed on the gen2 to a twin and the bhp is higher
dense paper air filters
smaller plenum and throttle body than gt cars and also the gen2 again more bhp
So that tells me that improvements can be made in those areas
then they put a restricted map on the car
and not an ideal high flow exhaust all those little things add up and we can tweak some or all those things to see real gains against the stock car. :thumb: :thumb: :grin:

Some will argue that those gains are negligible or not at all but my argument is always in that case why did Porsche change those areas on cars that produce higher bhp if they dont make a difference.

also on my old gen 1 I changed all those things aero/gt3 rear engine lid and wing
induction kit, sports filter , gt3 throttle body and plenum , remap, and a high flow big bore sports exhaust with 200cell cats. and it most certainly made a considerable difference over the stock car. I am not saying everyone should go that far as everyone wants different things from there 911 but my point it these things do work some giving higher results than other but at a price . I think the induction mod is the best value for money mod you can do and have always said its the first thing every 996 and 997 owner should do. :thumb:

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RL1989 said:

Phil 997 said:

daz parker said:

What are the competition charging for the same pipe?

Also didn't I read this be done by putting a cap inside the standard tube.

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There are guys out there Daz that want to block the resonator while keeping the OE look they effectively bung the res hole then put the OE induction back over it . but the only gain from that is the slight induction note increase , they wont be benefiting from the incresed note from using a sports filter and improved cold air induction from using both the sports filter and the smooth pipe as the OE pipe due to its shape creates turbulent air which doesnt move as smoothly and quickly as smooth flowing air . the idea is to get as much cold air in as quick as you can . note the tiny little things porsche do to reduce output on the carraras to stop them being to close to the flagship models .
little things I have noted are
rearward facing air intake grille , gt3 has forward facing bigger openings creating more ram air
single air intake into the air filter , funny changed on the gen2 to a twin and the bhp is higher
dense paper air filters
smaller plenum and throttle body than gt cars and also the gen2 again more bhp
So that tells me that improvements can be made in those areas
then they put a restricted map on the car
and not an ideal high flow exhaust all those little things add up and we can tweak some or all those things to see real gains against the stock car. :thumb: :thumb: :grin:

Some will argue that those gains are negligible or not at all but my argument is always in that case why did Porsche change those areas on cars that produce higher bhp if they dont make a difference.

also on my old gen 1 I changed all those things aero/gt3 rear engine lid and wing
induction kit, sports filter , gt3 throttle body and plenum , remap, and a high flow big bore sports exhaust with 200cell cats. and it most certainly made a considerable difference over the stock car. I am not saying everyone should go that far as everyone wants different things from there 911 but my point it these things do work some giving higher results than other but at a price . I think the induction mod is the best value for money mod you can do and have always said its the first thing every 996 and 997 owner should do. :thumb:

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I don't believe Porsche did anything to intentionally restrain the output of the Carrera models. Simply they extracted everything they could out of the product given the initial targets set for the product (Cost and attributes)
Carreras are designed for everyday use and such NVH is a priority when compared with the GT models. Cost would also be a significant factor, if the vehicle met its performance targets without more expensive dual inlets then there would be no reason to reduce the profit margins of the product or push the price onto the customer.
The GT models mass flow rate is higher and hence they demand changes to the inlet and exhaust systems, the increased cost of these systems can be justified by the higher price tag of the vehicle.

Worth noting that the standard inlet system is in fact a cold air intake, I would argue that the charge air temperature of an aftermarket 'cold air intake' sitting in traffic would by far exceed that of the standard system.

As for filter elements, a paper element the size of that in the Carrera has very little restriction indeed, there is no real world benefit from K&N style systems, purely a marketing exercise on a road car.

One last point, the objective of a well flowing inlet system is to reduce the air velocity. Restriction or pressure loss squares with velocity, therefore the slower the air moves for a given mass flow rate the lowers the losses will be.

However given all that, I'm all for people modifying their vehicles as they see fit :thumbs:

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RL1989 said:

Phil 997 said:

daz parker said:

However given all that, I'm all for people modifying their vehicles as they see fit :thumbs:

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Well thank you lol Phil and many like him will be mightily relived
I can't say I've noticed any performance gain but it does sound a whole lot nicer :grin:

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