All of which is very nice - but they don't make them anymore, the parrot is dead.
So at the risk of kicking off world war 3 from all directions... what is the best option now - I think everyone fundamentally finds the P-Zeros to be avg at best. Bridgestone? Goodyear? or Sod the N rating and go 91y over 87 Y and go PS4S ?
Which tyre are you claiming they don't make anymore?
If you're inferring this about N rated PS2s you are wrong, unless they've ceased manufacture since July when the four recently fitted to my car were made.
Yes I am saying they don't make them anymore as a series production tyre. I am told production has ceased and only bit of stock remain in the channel. Hence they no longer show on Michelin Website. This was what I was told by my tyre supplier also.
I know Michelin is rationalising the range and hopefully PS4 PS4S will appear with N rating for 997 sizes soon.
All of which is very nice - but they don't make them anymore, the parrot is dead.
So at the risk of kicking off world war 3 from all directions... what is the best option now - I think everyone fundamentally finds the P-Zeros to be avg at best. Bridgestone? Goodyear? or Sod the N rating and go 91y over 87 Y and go PS4S ?
Which tyre are you claiming they don't make anymore?
If you're inferring this about N rated PS2s you are wrong, unless they've ceased manufacture since July when the four recently fitted to my car were made.
Yes I am saying they don't make them anymore as a series production tyre. I am told production has ceased and only bit of stock remain in the channel. Hence they no longer show on Michelin Website. This was what I was told by my tyre supplier also.
I know Michelin is rationalising the range and hopefully PS4 PS4S will appear with N rating for 997 sizes soon.
How does the 87y vs 91y thing relate to N rated tyres? Or am I wrong to infer that from your post?
All of which is very nice - but they don't make them anymore, the parrot is dead.
So at the risk of kicking off world war 3 from all directions... what is the best option now - I think everyone fundamentally finds the P-Zeros to be avg at best. Bridgestone? Goodyear? or Sod the N rating and go 91y over 87 Y and go PS4S ?
Which tyre are you claiming they don't make anymore?
If you're inferring this about N rated PS2s you are wrong, unless they've ceased manufacture since July when the four recently fitted to my car were made.
Yes I am saying they don't make them anymore as a series production tyre. I am told production has ceased and only bit of stock remain in the channel. Hence they no longer show on Michelin Website. This was what I was told by my tyre supplier also.
I know Michelin is rationalising the range and hopefully PS4 PS4S will appear with N rating for 997 sizes soon.
How does the 87y vs 91y thing relate to N rated tyres? Or am I wrong to infer that from your post?
they don't yet make 87Y - they only make 91Y (higher weight rating) in PS4S - presumably 91 is slightly stiffer side wall?
I'm not convinced about the sidewall stiffness argument, but I'll replace my MPSS with PS4S when worn.
are yours 87 or 91?
Magic919 Barcelona
Joined: 05 Jun 2013 Posts: 1283 Location: Berkshire
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:57 am Post subject:
They are 91 and I'm not sure they came in anything else. _________________ 997.2 C4S PDK
T8 General
Joined: 29 Jun 2010 Posts: 16120 Location: Kent
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:10 am Post subject:
redbaron1973 wrote:
T8 wrote:
redbaron1973 wrote:
All of which is very nice - but they don't make them anymore, the parrot is dead.
So at the risk of kicking off world war 3 from all directions... what is the best option now - I think everyone fundamentally finds the P-Zeros to be avg at best. Bridgestone? Goodyear? or Sod the N rating and go 91y over 87 Y and go PS4S ?
Which tyre are you claiming they don't make anymore?
If you're inferring this about N rated PS2s you are wrong, unless they've ceased manufacture since July when the four recently fitted to my car were made.
Yes I am saying they don't make them anymore as a series production tyre. I am told production has ceased and only bit of stock remain in the channel. Hence they no longer show on Michelin Website. This was what I was told by my tyre supplier also.
I hadn't heard that. I'm just pleased I got my new PS2s on in time for my Feb' 2018 warranty renewal.
For Feb' 2020 it will be somebody else's problem. _________________ 2007 Guards Red 997 Turbo Tiptronic
ex 2004 Polar Silver 996T Tiptronic
ex 2002 Seal Grey 996.2 C4 Tiptronic
ex 1978 Silver 924 Manual
All of which is very nice - but they don't make them anymore, the parrot is dead.
So at the risk of kicking off world war 3 from all directions... what is the best option now - I think everyone fundamentally finds the P-Zeros to be avg at best. Bridgestone? Goodyear? or Sod the N rating and go 91y over 87 Y and go PS4S ?
Which tyre are you claiming they don't make anymore?
If you're inferring this about N rated PS2s you are wrong, unless they've ceased manufacture since July when the four recently fitted to my car were made.
Yes I am saying they don't make them anymore as a series production tyre. I am told production has ceased and only bit of stock remain in the channel. Hence they no longer show on Michelin Website. This was what I was told by my tyre supplier also.
I hadn't heard that. I'm just pleased I got my new PS2s on in time for my Feb' 2018 warranty renewal.
For Feb' 2020 it will be somebody else's problem.
Oooh!! When do you plan to sell T8?
jc
Dave_911 Newbie
Joined: 16 Oct 2017 Posts: 13
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:27 pm Post subject:
Hi
my tyre fitter is offering me PS4S or PS2 N2s 9 (for £10 more) - which to go for?
does N rated matter?
(car is '05 so no warranty issues)
thanks
Dave
Magic919 Barcelona
Joined: 05 Jun 2013 Posts: 1283 Location: Berkshire
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:32 pm Post subject:
This thread is a bit out of date really now the PS4S is here. I've replaced PS2s with PS4S. They have no N rating in 997 size, but that's just a concern for those under warranty. _________________ 997.2 C4S PDK
Poker2009 Österreich
Joined: 09 Sep 2009 Posts: 936 Location: London
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:34 pm Post subject:
I just put PS4S on the front, and they certainly “look” good! The PS2 N2 I have on the back, now “look” old and dated in comparison.
(In anticipation for anyone saying I shouldn’t mix rear N2 and front PS4S, I will manage!)
As for performance I am not sure - new vs old tyres is always going to feel good.
As for N2, that is normally a big debate. I personally couldn’t careless about it. My tyre fitter told me to only use N2 as it is a “Porsche”, but I ignored him. _________________ 997.1 C2S, Black, Coupe, 6-Speed Manual, Ohlins R&T.
Millers NT+ 10W50, driven above 3000 RPM.. original engine.
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Marky911 Magny-Cours
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 Posts: 2657
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:36 pm Post subject:
N rating doesn't matter a jot if you're out of warranty.
No insurance implications and no performance implications. It's just another Porsche tax for those stuck in (or choose to be in) manufacturers warranty.
Dave_911 Newbie
Joined: 16 Oct 2017 Posts: 13
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:02 pm Post subject:
Marky911 wrote:
N rating doesn't matter a jot if you're out of warranty.
No insurance implications and no performance implications. It's just another Porsche tax for those stuck in (or choose to be in) manufacturers warranty.
PS4S in 295/30/19 for £231 on tyreleader at the moment.
I just got my local f1 autocentre to price match and include fitting/disposal.
Hope that helps someone.
(I also tried some of the discount codes on the tyreleader site but none worked, a further 25% discount would have been amazing) _________________ Manual 997.2 c2 :Basalt + gtechniq : H&S + Gundo
MaxA Albert Park
Joined: 11 Oct 2015 Posts: 1667 Location: Helsinki
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:36 am Post subject:
Am I still right in thinking the Michelin PS4S is the 'go to' tyre? And does anyone have a recommendation for a good place to source them from (beating in mind I need them shipped)?
And since I've seen a fair bit of noise about the latest Goodyear Super Sports is there any one with any experience? I've not seen any comment on the forum. _________________ 997.2 Carrera4S: white over blue, driven and tracked, seldom clean.
MJA911 Sepang
Joined: 10 Dec 2013 Posts: 2846 Location: Berkshire
I’d say so, yes, from views on here and also 2 friends that have PS4S, one of them being on a 997 turbo S. Camskill always worth a look, but worth checking the likes of blackcircles and tyreleader.
I’d also be interested in Goodyear’s new tyre, no experience but if they were in the right size and were more than £15 a corner cheaper would very likely go for them. _________________ 991.1 C2, 986 Boxster S
Past pleasures: 997.1 GT3, 997.2 C4S Cab, 993 C2, 997.1 C2S, 996.1 C4
me&my997 Silverstone
Joined: 23 Mar 2019 Posts: 149 Location: Lancashire
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:30 pm Post subject:
MaxA wrote:
Am I still right in thinking the Michelin PS4S is the 'go to' tyre? And does anyone have a recommendation for a good place to source them from (beating in mind I need them shipped)?
And since I've seen a fair bit of noise about the latest Goodyear Super Sports is there any one with any experience? I've not seen any comment on the forum.
I have a set of virtually new PS4S for Carrera 4 (305-30-19 / 235 35 19 ) i'm looking to sell , £500 for the set of 4 but you would need to cover shipping
http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1492990#1492990 _________________ 964 C2 / sold in haste - 2010
996 C2 / bought in haste - 2011
997 C4 / back in the game - 2019
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Joined: 11 Oct 2015 Posts: 1667 Location: Helsinki
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:54 am Post subject:
me&my997 wrote:
MaxA wrote:
Am I still right in thinking the Michelin PS4S is the 'go to' tyre? And does anyone have a recommendation for a good place to source them from (beating in mind I need them shipped)?
And since I've seen a fair bit of noise about the latest Goodyear Super Sports is there any one with any experience? I've not seen any comment on the forum.
I have a set of virtually new PS4S for Carrera 4 (305-30-19 / 235 35 19 ) i'm looking to sell , £500 for the set of 4 but you would need to cover shipping
http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1492990#1492990
Thanks for the offer, I didn't mean to ignore it, I just didn't see it. In my experience arranging shipping myself is a pain for all concerned. The tyres would need to be wrapped etc. If I was local, and I could come and have a look and pick up in person, I'd be happy to buy. _________________ 997.2 Carrera4S: white over blue, driven and tracked, seldom clean.
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