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Gixxer996
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:32 am    Post subject: Heavy clutch?? Try this Reply with quote

Just thought id share some info following a recent clutch change.

I only changed mine as I was replacing the RMS anyway. As the pictures below show my old clutch is in near perfect condition with little wear (it was replaced around 5 years ago). The reason for the post is the difference I have in pedal feel. My clutch actuation is now silky smooth and almost as light as our 2017 fiesta ST.
I will point out that I also updated the release arm/ pivot pin/ pressure plate and release bearing and obviously new fluid.

The point I am trying to make is that the parts I replaced were all in ok condition with only minor wear. I personally believe the improvement is mainly down to the new slave cylinder. I had not long replaced the fluid with my old components, so that cannot be the reason for the improvement.

If you have a heavy clutch pedal I would strongly recommend replacing your slave cylinder before anything else, as it is cheap, easily accessible and straight forward to change.

Happy tinkering!
 



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Marky911
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope those Converse have got steel toe caps in young man. Wink

Good info bud.

Mine is going down for exactly that job next month. Current clutch has only done 20k but I've a new one to go in with RMS, IMS cover etc. I may as well stick a slave cylinder on the list too. Cheers. Thumb
 
  
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Gixxer996
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Converse are the footwear for all scenarios! Only exception are flipflops!

Also double check your release arm for any wear on the slave cylinder contact point as again these are cheap and could give a notchy pedal feel.

Whilst the transmission is out, you may also want to consider your AOS as it is so much easier to access.

I had an AOS fail on my boxster s a few years back and the amount of smoke they cause is scary!!
 
  
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askgeez
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I persevered with a heavy clutch on the 4s for 2 years.
Checked the pedal assist spring as well.

Long story but subsequently had a gearbox rebuild. New clutch , flywheel etc.

Mike at Sports & Classic said slave cylinder was FUBAR and that I also had a Bent release fork Dont know

What came first who knows ... But a new slave cylinder some miles back could have saved me a £5k bill Sad
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Shurv
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume that changing the slave cylinder is an engine out job and splitting the engine and gearbox? My clutch is pretty heavy, but I'm used to it and feel that waiting til the clutch needs doing again may be the right time to do it. BUT, that could be a few years yet, so was wondering if it was worth tackling it now.
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Marky911
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AOS is on my list of "possibles".

Big list of "definites" though, so it's where to you draw the line. They're only about £100 though aren't they. AOS along with IMS seal flipped, new water pump, LTT, clutch and RMS would pretty much be everything I could do that's preventative without going into the engine I suppose, so I should really do it with this next batch of work.

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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good infopost Thumb Thumb
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Gixxer996
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shurv- the slave cylinder is external nothing else needs to be removed. Simply 2 bolts and the clutch line. Hardest part is bleeding the fluid after (not difficult).

Marky911 - AOS is about £100 if memory serves correct. However when I bought mine from design 911 they only had a replica part in stock @ £50. I bought it and to be honest it looks pretty good, clearly out of a different mould to the original, but very comparable. My thoughts are it would definitely be better than my existing one and has no fittment or running issues- so all good.

That's a nice list of jobs your getting ticked off there!!
 
  
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plynchy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brake lines whilst the engine is out?
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EGTE
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget the IMS dust shield removal!
 
  
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