T8 said:
Phil 997 said:
I have heard that as well guys just finding the 991 a bit big and boring even the interior isn't very inspiring. I think the 997.2 is seeing this effect as buyers choose a 997.2 over a 991 as a proper driving car. Its interesting as it feeds onto the other discussion that the Cayman is now Porsche sports car and the 991 is a big GT cruiser so if thats the case then the 997.2 could well end up being the last 911 and that will have a big impact on its prices.
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The rest of the reasoning might be so but I can't really see how a difference in length of 2.2 inches can make such a difference especially as both cars are the same width. :?
The 991 looks a lot bigger than a 997 but it's the shape and stance of the car rather than the overall physical dimensions.
Parked next to each other, standing at the front, the 991 looks much bigger, but the higher back end, lower front end and screen angle amplifies the 2" difference.
The wheelbase and track increases are what makes a real difference to how these cars drive and how they feel. 10cm does not sound like a lot, but with PTV on both, it's the 991 that you feel it working on way more than the 997. You feel the front coming around on really tight bends rather than leading the way as it does in the 997. The smaller wheelbase/track and more enclosed cabin on the 997 make it more of a sports car. The 991 has the dash slightly lower and further away, due to the rake of the windscreen, which just makes the 991 feel a lot larger inside.
For spirited short blasts on a Sunday 997 edges it. But the 991 is a better 7 day car and wins hands down for longer distances. The 991 is a GT car no doubt, if porsche made that concious decision vs the Cayman as the sports model or if it is just the way it worked out is to be discussed.
Both 911 cars are amazing and anyone outside porsche circles probably thinks that we are nuts for so much discussion between cars that they think are the same, buts that's part of the fun of the porsche precision brand imho, subtle evolution.
Values? Cars are supposed to depreciate....but 997 values will hold up well vs the relative costs of the 991 as there is quite a gap in list....the man maths have to stretch a little further to make changing cars work. Who knows what will happen to the market though. Just enjoy them.