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Centre gravity review

FZP said:
My experience was worth every cent with CG. I'd have no hesitation in getting them to do it again.
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This sums up my feelings. The attention to detail is incredible and it was really good to be able to tailor the settings to my taste and also to have a good look underneath and go over it with a fine tooth comb. Massive piece of mind for a car that I'm planning to keep for a very long time. Their advice to me: go and put some miles on it and enjoy!
 
Chris is excellent and the devil is in the detail here.

His knowledge is encyclopaedic and he transformed how my car felt.

Money very well spent in my opinion.

:)
 
I rate CG very highly indeed. The process starts as mentioned previously with a test run around the local B roads to highlight any problems with the owner as a passenger. The car then goes on a shock absorber oscillation test bed to eliminate these as a cause of any problems (mine were shot), then on to the geo/repair work as required. Followed by a final spirited test run with the owner driving to confirm acceptability. Well worth the extra cost I.M.O.
 
seeforez said:
As above for a check and align its pretty standard stuff and i wouldn't expect to pay over £150
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£325 is arguably a lot of cash for 4 hours work but these guys have so much kit and even more knowledge. Hard to explain until you have experienced it first hand... They are a completely different level. I had previously had alignments done elsewhere but it was no where near as thorough as what CoG did. Worth every penny!
 
911tom said:
seeforez said:
As above for a check and align its pretty standard stuff and i wouldn't expect to pay over £150
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£325 is arguably a lot of cash for 4 hours work but these guys have so much kit and even more knowledge. Hard to explain until you have experienced it first hand... They are a completely different level. I had previously had alignments done elsewhere but it was no where near as thorough as what CoG did. Worth every penny!
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Centre Gravity are THE people to use if you want your Porsche to drive like you want it to on road or track. I`ve used them twice on both Porsches and their knowledge and enthusiasm for Porsche cars is second to none, they will tweak your geo so your car behaves exactly how you want it to.

I hate it when people raise the question of price for specialists who know exactly what they are doing and non-specialists who simply adjust to factory spec, pay low wages and have little knowledge of geometry.

£325 less the vat is £270, divided by 4 hours is £67.50 per hour, there are 3 people working at CG, rent, rates, leccy, water, gas, equipment costs and maintenance ( the shock testing machine is leased and also PAYG per car, that is the way these companies work these days ) so there isn`t a lot left after all those overheads :nooo:

Would you run a specialist business and employ 2 other specialist people for £67.50 and hour :?:

I know I wouldn`t :nooo:
 
kurlykris said:
911tom said:
seeforez said:
As above for a check and align its pretty standard stuff and i wouldn't expect to pay over £150
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£325 is arguably a lot of cash for 4 hours work but these guys have so much kit and even more knowledge. Hard to explain until you have experienced it first hand... They are a completely different level. I had previously had alignments done elsewhere but it was no where near as thorough as what CoG did. Worth every penny!
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Centre Gravity are THE people to use if you want your Porsche to drive like you want it to on road or track. I`ve used them twice on both Porsches and their knowledge and enthusiasm for Porsche cars is second to none, they will tweak your geo so your car behaves exactly how you want it to.

I hate it when people raise the question of price for specialists who know exactly what they are doing and non-specialists who simply adjust to factory spec, pay low wages and have little knowledge of geometry.

£325 less the vat is £270, divided by 4 hours is £67.50 per hour, there are 3 people working at CG, rent, rates, leccy, water, gas, equipment costs and maintenance ( the shock testing machine is leased and also PAYG per car, that is the way these companies work these days ) so there isn`t a lot left after all those overheads :nooo:

Would you run a specialist business and employ 2 other specialist people for £67.50 and hour :?:

I know I wouldn`t :nooo:
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Well said :thumbs:

They also supplied the ohlins kit on my car as well as fitting and price for the materials was no more than anywhere else. They are straight forward honest guys that really know there stuff.
 
Price for geometry seems to have come down elsewhere since I had mine done at CG in May 2015. At that time my enquiries across different suppliers of geometry using Hunter/Beissbarth laser machines revealed typical charges were £200-£240+ VAT. When asked how long it takes, the reply was that it typically takes just under an hour but could be as much as 1.5hrs so I could wait whilst having it done.

By contrast CG is £267+VAT and is around 4 hrs with an.inclusive structured systematic assessment of brakes, suspension and steering that can impact on handling. For me at that time in 2015 it was a no-brainer. Spend £267 for 4hrs work rather than £220 for 1-1.5 hrs work.

Now if prices elsewhere are £150, then the relative hourly rate still is higher than CG's approach and process.
 
I went looking for my write up I did after my trip down there and can't seem to find it.
I needed a coffin arm and inner TRE changed(main reason for the work misdiagnosed by OPC- knocking noise) and it worked out cheaper than having OPC do the exact same work.
Got to have a real good look around the underside of the car and see that it was in mint condition as well which was reassuring.
He also sprayed some fish oil stuff(not sure if thats what it was) in all the areas that are potential rust spots, along with a bunch of other preventative maintenance stuff which slips my memory.
Value is in the eye of the beholder, and in my case, utter great value
 
911tom said:
kurlykris said:
911tom said:
seeforez said:
As above for a check and align its pretty standard stuff and i wouldn't expect to pay over £150
Click to expand...

£325 is arguably a lot of cash for 4 hours work but these guys have so much kit and even more knowledge. Hard to explain until you have experienced it first hand... They are a completely different level. I had previously had alignments done elsewhere but it was no where near as thorough as what CoG did. Worth every penny!
Click to expand...

Centre Gravity are THE people to use if you want your Porsche to drive like you want it to on road or track. I`ve used them twice on both Porsches and their knowledge and enthusiasm for Porsche cars is second to none, they will tweak your geo so your car behaves exactly how you want it to.

I hate it when people raise the question of price for specialists who know exactly what they are doing and non-specialists who simply adjust to factory spec, pay low wages and have little knowledge of geometry.

£325 less the vat is £270, divided by 4 hours is £67.50 per hour, there are 3 people working at CG, rent, rates, leccy, water, gas, equipment costs and maintenance ( the shock testing machine is leased and also PAYG per car, that is the way these companies work these days ) so there isn`t a lot left after all those overheads :nooo:

Would you run a specialist business and employ 2 other specialist people for £67.50 and hour :?:

I know I wouldn`t :nooo:
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All fair points...i suppose my logic was i thought they had the same machines and methods of setting up the car as other specialist, but of they have better machines and do extra things to the set up then yes the cost is warranted :thumbs:
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Yep, you are paying for the knowledge not the equipment. Their back catalogue is extensive to say the least, the attention to detail is borderline OCD, the equipment just allows them to practice their art.

In a nutshell, well worth the money.
 
Totally agree.

Took my GTS to them last Thursday. They have transformed it. For the difference and how special the car is to drive now I think £325 is a bargain.

You cant really just look at it in terms of labour cost. You could spend an awful lot more having new components fitted and I doubt you'll see such a marked improvement.
My GTS inspires confidence now and its very easy to drive quickly.

Im looking forward to returning to Bruntingthorpe in July to see what the differences are there now compared to last month.
 
CG have two ramps and IIRC see something like 8,000 cars in the course of a year. Around 75% of those cars are Porsche. They don't do anything other than geo and suspension, they specialise. With the exception of the known, recognised Porsche service indies, there are very few places, competent though they may be, that will have the same experience. You're not just paying for spanner time, but also assessment and tuning of the chassis.
 
Diggermeister said:
CG have two ramps and IIRC see something like 8,000 cars in the course of a year....
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I think that figure has one too many noughts added! If Chris and his colleague (can't remember his name) did 3 cars per day, 365/24/7 with no holidays, that would be 1000 cars! :D
 
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