911 Collector
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I purchased a 993 Carrera RS from 4 Star Classics / 4 Star Supercars (t/a Petrolface Ltd.) in Hampshire through their ad in the Pistonheads classifieds.
This vehicle was advertised as "factory standard" and represented in writing as "matching numbers: chassis, engine and gearbox". However, it has subsequently been proven rogue: it bears a non-RS engine that's been tampered to show the original engine number. Experts have proven beyond doubt that the engine is neither original nor genuine to a 993 RS. The same story goes for the gearbox (a regular Carrera G50.21 item) and suspension components (regular Carrera wheel carriers, sway bars, brakes). The car is essentially a fraud, bar what appears to be a real chassis.
The issue has been taken up to the dealer's sole director, James Mann, who initially promised to resolve the matter promptly. After much prevarication, Mann subsequently shifted blame to parties upstream to 4Star (which are in no way involved or even identified in my transaction as I had only dealt with Mann throughout the transaction). Last week, James Mann went on to say that "unfortunately the legal risk rests with you [the Buyer]."
This matter is now being resolved legally. While that process will take its natural course, I want the public to be aware of 4Star's outrageous deeds.
I am prepared for a protracted legal battle; however that evolves, this is quickly becoming an issue of principle: unethical practitioners should not be allowed to continue in their ways and prey on the classic enthusiast community. That 4Star James Mann and would even attempt to brush off a complete fraud as a "Buyer's problem" is grossly offensive.
This is the original 4Star advert on PH:
https://web.archive.org/web/2015110...orsche/911-993/porsche-993-carrera-rs/4335501
And 4Star's original advert on their website (which has since been taken down):
https://web.archive.org/web/2015100...assics.com/porsche-993-carrera-rs-for-sale-4/
p.s. It's a crying shame that PH forums wouldn't allow the naming of this egregious offender, which apparently is still advertising on their classifieds. :evil:
I purchased a 993 Carrera RS from 4 Star Classics / 4 Star Supercars (t/a Petrolface Ltd.) in Hampshire through their ad in the Pistonheads classifieds.
This vehicle was advertised as "factory standard" and represented in writing as "matching numbers: chassis, engine and gearbox". However, it has subsequently been proven rogue: it bears a non-RS engine that's been tampered to show the original engine number. Experts have proven beyond doubt that the engine is neither original nor genuine to a 993 RS. The same story goes for the gearbox (a regular Carrera G50.21 item) and suspension components (regular Carrera wheel carriers, sway bars, brakes). The car is essentially a fraud, bar what appears to be a real chassis.
The issue has been taken up to the dealer's sole director, James Mann, who initially promised to resolve the matter promptly. After much prevarication, Mann subsequently shifted blame to parties upstream to 4Star (which are in no way involved or even identified in my transaction as I had only dealt with Mann throughout the transaction). Last week, James Mann went on to say that "unfortunately the legal risk rests with you [the Buyer]."
This matter is now being resolved legally. While that process will take its natural course, I want the public to be aware of 4Star's outrageous deeds.
I am prepared for a protracted legal battle; however that evolves, this is quickly becoming an issue of principle: unethical practitioners should not be allowed to continue in their ways and prey on the classic enthusiast community. That 4Star James Mann and would even attempt to brush off a complete fraud as a "Buyer's problem" is grossly offensive.
This is the original 4Star advert on PH:
https://web.archive.org/web/2015110...orsche/911-993/porsche-993-carrera-rs/4335501
And 4Star's original advert on their website (which has since been taken down):
https://web.archive.org/web/2015100...assics.com/porsche-993-carrera-rs-for-sale-4/
p.s. It's a crying shame that PH forums wouldn't allow the naming of this egregious offender, which apparently is still advertising on their classifieds. :evil:
