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Poker2009
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I told my mechanic the part costs about £45 (just had a quick look on eBay) and he said "a sender is a sender" and told me to pick one up from Lloyds Motor spares for less than £10.

Is this true? I have never bought a non-porsche part for my car!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes and no:

If it fits the hole and returns the expected voltage range: yes
If it doesn't: no


If he said "just get the VW one", I'd know where he was coming from. But I don't know what parts and the specs are from Lloyd's (although I hope and expect them to ask what it is for and give you the right model: they don't just sell one!)


The LTT is also non-OEM (as their is no such spec within Porsche for the 997 Carrera - and I don't mean the "free" housing and gaskets some ship with, I mean the insert that does the function you are buying it for).
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok ok, I admit it.. i also have a Bosch Battery, and Halfords Ripspeed Mesh grills!! And half my car is made up of VW parts!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have decided I'm going to do this LTT install in January, ordered the thermostat today.

Does anyone have a rough idea what it'll cost me to get an Indy to fit this? I'm not confident in taking my porker to bits yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Touji wrote:
Does anyone have a rough idea what it'll cost me to get an Indy to fit this? I'm not confident in taking my porker to bits yet.


Half a day's labour if they're quick, otherwise allow a full day.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Touji wrote:
I have decided I'm going to do this LTT install in January, ordered the thermostat today.

Does anyone have a rough idea what it'll cost me to get an Indy to fit this? I'm not confident in taking my porker to bits yet.


I had a quote to supply & fit for £250 + VAT
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Indy should charge no more than 2 hours to fit.

It only took that to do my first-time 996 DIY.

If they (you) have all the tools and access it is very straight forward.

A lack of easy access (my own 996 jacking was perhaps more gung-ho, but ultimately, used three jacks and two axle stands), a missing vital socket, a smaller "travel set" of tools (just a couple of extra UJs would have alleviated the ridiculous support bracket contortions) and single jack brought on the assumption they were just a supplement to what turned out to be a non-existent tool and jack set(!), various photo opps and basically a car that wasn't mine to take liberties on (and its owner literally looking over my shoulder with questions and discussions) meant a very much slower process on Maxie's 997.

I can't even type when someone is watching!

In hindsight, it would have been much simpler if Maxie had come to me (and just dropped the car off Grin)

Although to be fair to Maxie, he did actually buy the E10 socket, but I got to keep it.

Just need to stop buying pre-9x7s and I might get to use it again!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks as always for the comprehensive responses! I'm tempted to try it myself as I'm not normally one to shy away from getting my hands dirty with my cars.
But, I'll have a call about and see who's going to charge what.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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4 bar is VERY high operating temp idle pressure.

Even 2.5 is too high.

I would get the sensor checked.


I know its been a few months, but just got round to getting the oil pressure sender changed today. The guage seems much less sticky, so hopefully has fixed the problem. Haven't driven it long enough yet, but did see pressure went just below 2.5 at idle, then i gave up on the test run!

So nothing to do with the LTT as I suspected in the beginning.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Folks, I am going to attempt this swap this week and quick question over the Loctite 5922 sealent used. I have some of this in the garage
http://www.granvilleoil.com/product_info.php?prod_id=44
from which I can see does the same job. Correct?

I have the main gasket as well with the thermostat assy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coullstar wrote:
I have some of this in the garage
http://www.granvilleoil.com/product_info.php?prod_id=44
from which I can see does the same job. Correct?

That looks fine to me, though the description is somewhat confusing.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I've used it for similar applications before but just wanted to check that it was one of those times where people have had issues with anything other than the locative.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys
I have recieved my thermostat and housing today. But I'm confused?
It is made by Hamburg-Technic and says 160f low thermostat 986/996/987/997
On the actual thermostat it only says 83deg. Should it not say 71deg ?
Have I bought the wrong one?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what can happen when others who were not involved in the testing and original diagnosis that resulted in us sourcing our LTT and just try to jump on the band waggon to sell - and when buyers don't go to the original sources.

Yes 160 F is 71C ( (C-32)*5/9 = F) and this is what is stamped on our thermostats.

We supply at a cost of £35.00 (+P&P&VAT) and can also supply a kit of helpful additions - for which you should phone 01204 302809 ext 3 and speak to Daniel.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My LTT has been sitting on he shelf for ages and I finally got it installed today (well, it took me a couple of days to be exact) by following Maxie's guide. Great post chap, many sincere thanks.

The upper two bolts were a ***** to get at despite buying 3/8 'wobbly' sockets, UJ and extension bars. I eventually gave up using them and instead cut a short piece of 3/8" bar to a length of 1" (can I still use inches or will some bloody European bureaucrat tut tut at me?). Popped into the socket it allowed the socket to be easily located onto the bolt and then a normal open ended 10mm spanner to be used. Not elegant perhaps, but effective.

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As an aside, what a lot of rust under the back end of my late 2006 machine. All of it limited to the cheap nuts and bolts used to hold it all together. Shame on the accountants for spoiling the sheep for a ha'peth of tar and shame on the 'management' for allowing it to happen.

PS. I enjoyed the 'burping' bit at the end of the day Very Happy
 



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The exhaust bolts are an embarrassment (well, what's left of them!)
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the risk of thread drift..... I'd like to change the rusted stuff but am not sure if the nuts on the exhaust and the support brackets aren't captive? If I cut or wrench off what's left of the corroded bolts will I find that I'm left with a fixed and badly corroded nut? The only thing then will be to replace the bracket and that'll most likely mean taking the exhaust to bits. In that event I may as well get all that rusted stuff around the manifolds sorted and well....maybe that would be a good time to send the whole thing off to Hartech.

Don't know whether to Floor or Sad
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have probably corrosion "binded" (bound) to the brackets, but they are not captive.

Angle grind off and replace with SS variants.
 
  
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